Union terrace proposal on a par with Trump project

Hotelier backs city gardens plan

By Joanna Skailes

Published: 07/01/2010

One of Scotland’s top businessmen believes a plan to transform Union Terrace Gardens in Aberdeen is on a par with Donald Trump’s multimillion-pound golf development in terms of its importance for the north-east.

Robert Cook, chief executive of the Malmaison and Hotel du Vin group, also revealed in an exclusive interview with the Press and Journal that the group is considering opening a Hotel du Vin in Aberdeen.

Mr Cook expressed his support for the planned £140million civic square at Union Terrace Gardens and said his confidence in Aberdeen had encouraged him to consider opening a new hotel.

He said Malmaison Aberdeen, in Queen’s Road, was one of his group’s best-performing hotels and he announced yesterday that it had won hotel of the year in the in-house awards.

Peterhead-born Mr Cook said the people of Aberdeen deserved the prestige of the “iconic gardens development”, which is being led by Aberdeen City and Shire Economic Future with a £50million pledge from Sir Ian Wood. The plan is to raise the gardens to street level and cover the Denburn dual carriageway and railway line.

“I put the Trump development and the city square plans in the same box,” said Mr Cook. “These are two great things for Aberdeen. I don’t think there is anywhere else in the UK with two of these kinds of developments going on at the moment.”

Neither does he believe funding will be hard to find. “Sir Ian Wood has shown exceptional vision and generosity. I think investment in this could be oversubscribed.”

His group would want to be involved, although he sidestepped any question of direct investment. “We would want to contribute to any cultural development or similar development of this ilk in some way or another.”

He said the plan offered commercial, cultural and tourism benefits and compared it with successful regeneration projects in Newcastle’s Quayside and Piccadilly in Manchester.

Union Terrace Gardens, at the moment, was “dead and wasted space” — and Union Street had “lost its way”.

Mr Cook said: “This is our Edinburgh Castle, our equivalent to Glasgow’s George Square or London’s Trafalgar Square. This will bring in money. This is another reason to come to Aberdeen. Strategically it is in a great location. It is the missing hub of the spokes of the wheel.”

Mr Cook urged people to “grab the opportunity with both hands” when the plans go to consultation next week, saying Aberdonians should be proud of their city and the civic square would be the “icing on the cake”. “Aberdeen has got to have huge belief in itself,” he said. “It deserves to have huge belief in itself.”

Reader's Comments

The trump plans are no where in the same league as this garden project. Trump has a good idea but he is badly advised. And his continual insistance on unnecessary evictions / deportations of Aberdeen householders makes the comparison to Highland Clearances of the past apt. In short, we can still have the best golf course without the extra 5 plots / carparks . Wise up man!
wind bag
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"This is our Edinburgh Castle" - how can that be? - Are Edinburgh planning to flatten their heritage and put a massive slab of concrete with a car park in it too?
Philip Thompson
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"This is our Edinburgh Castle" - how can that be? - Are Edinburgh planning to flatten their heritage and put a massive slab of concrete with a car park in it too?
Philip Thompson
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Its our Princes Street Gardens, a place of beauty and heritage that needs a focal point such as the national gallery that provides a cultural heart for Princes Street, lets not turn it into a Waverley.
jack keenan
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"Mr Cook said the people of Aberdeen deserved the prestige of the “iconic gardens development”?!?! I don't know what plans Mr Cook has been looking at, but there doesn't appear to be ANY "gardens" in the ACSEF proposal. I see a flat, featureless concrete "plaza" with some bushes. Not very inspiring at all, and certainly NOT Aberdeens answer to Edinburgh Castle!! If the gardens are underused, then lets revitalise them rather than flattening them.
Bryan Campbell
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"Mr Cook said the people of Aberdeen deserved the prestige of the “iconic gardens development”?!?! I don't know what plans Mr Cook has been looking at, but there doesn't appear to be ANY "gardens" in the ACSEF proposal. I see a flat, featureless concrete "plaza" with some bushes. Not very inspiring at all, and certainly NOT Aberdeens answer to Edinburgh Castle!! If the gardens are underused, then lets revitalise them rather than flattening them.
Bryan Campbell
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We already have "iconic gardens' and I, along with many, are perplexed at why hundreds of millions of pounds, and lets not kid ourselves here that this folly of a heritage destroying project can be built for anywhere close to that amount of money, I think we can safely add another few million onto that sum, when for a substantially less sum of money and legacy making intent from the Council can have the public back in 'our/my' gardens!
Jim Ewen
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We already have "iconic gardens' and I, along with many, are perplexed at why hundreds of millions of pounds, and lets not kid ourselves here that this folly of a heritage destroying project can be built for anywhere close to that amount of money, I think we can safely add another few million onto that sum, when for a substantially less sum of money and legacy making intent from the Council can have the public back in 'our/my' gardens!
Jim Ewen
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The gardens themselves were designed in the nineteenth century to enhance the city, and they do! How many other cities in Britain and Europe still retain their green spaces? I was in New York recently, and yes, Central Park is a mite bigger than Union Terrace Gardens, but it's the same principle, New Yorkers would be horrified at the thought of their 'green heart' being cut down and concreted over! UTG represents not only the city's green heart, but the city's lifeline - the Denburn, now culverted because of the railway, was our original water source, the trees were very likely seeded from those of the Stocket Forest, a present to the city by Robert the Bruce. Why in the world do ACSEF and Ian Wood seem to think they can steamroller our heritage with empty promises which are a thin veil for their selfish ambition. Don't forget, Sir Ian, what Shakespeare said, 'The evil that men do lives after them, the good is oft' interred with their bones'. Do you really want to be remembered as the destroyer of Aberdeen's already 'iconic' green heart? I wouldn't think so! STOP ignoring people and give them a REAL choice.
Jane Swan
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Mr Cook the majority of the people of Aberdeen are getting exactly what they deserve - with their leadership lacking in morals a new Soddom and Gomorrah is araising and we all know what happened to that city
Thomas Owenson
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"cultural and tourism benefits and compared it with successful regeneration projects in Newcastle’s Quayside" Interestingly The Baltic Contemporary Art Centre was at the core of this regeneration and not a large flat wind swept expanse of concrete and small trees with tiny roots!
Jim Ewen
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"cultural and tourism benefits and compared it with successful regeneration projects in Newcastle’s Quayside" Interestingly The Baltic Contemporary Art Centre was at the core of this regeneration and not a large flat wind swept expanse of concrete and small trees with tiny roots!
Jim Ewen
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Hey, Mr Cook, if you're REALLY a Peterheider, then you know Ian Wood's background was in the fishing. BOTH of you ought to be investing your money in sorting out Scotland's fishing industry and supporting it - then I'd really believe you cared about Aberdeen. This isn't about throwing money at white elephant schemes - do some good with your money, on something VALID, not a concrete plaza! Or, as T. Owenson points out, you'll be contributing to the city's destruction.
Fiona-Jane Brown
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Hey, Mr Cook, if you're REALLY a Peterheider, then you know Ian Wood's background was in the fishing. BOTH of you ought to be investing your money in sorting out Scotland's fishing industry and supporting it - then I'd really believe you cared about Aberdeen. This isn't about throwing money at white elephant schemes - do some good with your money, on something VALID, not a concrete plaza! Or, as T. Owenson points out, you'll be contributing to the city's destruction.
Fiona-Jane Brown
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Jane and Fiona-Jane are spot on. We just don't want or need a vast concrete desert at Union Terrace. The views over the Denburn valley -- south to the library and HM Theatre and west to the interesting buildings and spires of Belmont Street and beyond would be ruined, and the mature trees are irreplacable. The gardens were designed for people not planners, and are like a miniature Princes Street Gardens. Any comparison with the exciting Trump development is ridiculous, and Mr. Wood should put his spare millions into any cause but this.
Stuart West
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Jane and Fiona-Jane are spot on. We just don't want or need a vast concrete desert at Union Terrace. The views over the Denburn valley -- south to the library and HM Theatre and west to the interesting buildings and spires of Belmont Street and beyond would be ruined, and the mature trees are irreplacable. The gardens were designed for people not planners, and are like a miniature Princes Street Gardens. Any comparison with the exciting Trump development is ridiculous, and Mr. Wood should put his spare millions into any cause but this.
Stuart West
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Robert Cook from his comments has obviously never been to or seen Union Terrace Gardens and Union Street. He is I expect like Mr Ian Wood, another deluded businessman with an inflated sense of self-importance.
Sean Ashley
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I wonder how many of the above posts were made by supporters of the proposed Peacock Arts Centre? Seriously now, hands up. Or perhaps it was Tripping Up Trump, Or Road Sense? You guys are living in some dim and distant past. Get on board the 21st century people and let's liberate our city. Trees donated by Robert the Bruce? I've never heard so much claptrap in all my days. Next there'll be talk of badger sets or wild puffins to save, or indeed, is UTG a site of special scientific interest? I applaud the Council and Sir Ian on this development, albeit it needs the input of the public (the majority that is, not the campaigner against ever single development that is dared mentioned in the North East!!)
Joe Bloggs
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I wonder how many of the above posts were made by supporters of the proposed Peacock Arts Centre? Seriously now, hands up. Or perhaps it was Tripping Up Trump, Or Road Sense? You guys are living in some dim and distant past. Get on board the 21st century people and let's liberate our city. Trees donated by Robert the Bruce? I've never heard so much claptrap in all my days. Next there'll be talk of badger sets or wild puffins to save, or indeed, is UTG a site of special scientific interest? I applaud the Council and Sir Ian on this development, albeit it needs the input of the public (the majority that is, not the campaigner against ever single development that is dared mentioned in the North East!!)
Joe Bloggs
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Mr Bloggs, not a real name I take it? FYI a significant, and growing, number of Aberdonians are supports of the UTG campaign. And far from a misguided few are in fact a voice that would like to see the city centre retain some of its heritage and beautiful history. Im all for change, development and growth and will be the first to argue for it happening, for the right reasons based on thorough research, the needs of a city and a majority opinion based of factual insight. Not some fanciful old mans whim at the expense of the public purse and what little is left of the beauty of the city. I would rather leave Aberdeen than see this square take shape! I'm not alone.
Jim Ewen
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Joe Bloggs. As a born and bread Aberdonian working in the city and with generations of family history in Aberdeen and the surrounding area, I'm not that fussed about the art center project - However what i do care about is the heart and soul of this city, and there is NO place in it for this concrete monstrosity! Whilst i agree that Union Terrace does need to be rejuvenated. I feel strongly that a less sledge hammer to the face approach is what's required, this project (as it stands) is anything but visionary, in fact it's incredibly short sighted and will do nothing to enhance the Center of the City i love. I am far from alone in my opinion, as a great many people as well as my friends & family share my view. Feel free to call us the silent majority!
Graeme Smith
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Joe Bloggs. As a born and bread Aberdonian working in the city and with generations of family history in Aberdeen and the surrounding area, I'm not that fussed about the art center project - However what i do care about is the heart and soul of this city, and there is NO place in it for this concrete monstrosity! Whilst i agree that Union Terrace does need to be rejuvenated. I feel strongly that a less sledge hammer to the face approach is what's required, this project (as it stands) is anything but visionary, in fact it's incredibly short sighted and will do nothing to enhance the Center of the City i love. I am far from alone in my opinion, as a great many people as well as my friends & family share my view. Feel free to call us the silent majority!
Graeme Smith
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dear Joe. I am happy to be on he side promoting world class, sympathetic, honest architecture. I'll even put my name to it. I am fed up with being called unprogressive because I don't want a giant concrete slab in the middle of UTG. I AM progressive, because I think that Aberdeen will benefit from an amazing arts centre that will re-energise the underused gardens. The people of aberdeen deserve to know all the facts and ACSEF don't seem to be able to given their side (apparently "we the people" will decide what goes in it... ho ho)... and are too scared ? to have any possibility of showcasing the PVA plans next to theirs - if they are that confident about their plans - they would put PVA up and say "look, ours is better"... or are they worried about a budget? - because I am sure PVA will be glad to pay for a stall wherever ACSEF's road show goes.
Philip Thompson
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dear Joe. I am happy to be on he side promoting world class, sympathetic, honest architecture. I'll even put my name to it. I am fed up with being called unprogressive because I don't want a giant concrete slab in the middle of UTG. I AM progressive, because I think that Aberdeen will benefit from an amazing arts centre that will re-energise the underused gardens. The people of aberdeen deserve to know all the facts and ACSEF don't seem to be able to given their side (apparently "we the people" will decide what goes in it... ho ho)... and are too scared ? to have any possibility of showcasing the PVA plans next to theirs - if they are that confident about their plans - they would put PVA up and say "look, ours is better"... or are they worried about a budget? - because I am sure PVA will be glad to pay for a stall wherever ACSEF's road show goes.
Philip Thompson
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Joe Bloggs, please read this: http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/934729?UserKey= and then ask yourself who is "living in some dim and distant past". From my reading of it, the piece would suggest that Sir Ian Wood might just be doing exactly that. You seem to believe that there is a protest movement in Aberdeen ready to object to anything, which is wrong and offensive to the folk posting here as well. Trump's plan, unlike Wood's, is fully funded privately and will require no public money. If you understand that, you may also see why many people are opposed to the city square project, irrespective of the issues concerning the raised deck or the PVA building. Do you see that?
Ellis Croft
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In answer to Mr. Bloggs who, I suspect, isn't from "around these parts", I'm not very keen on the Peacock Arts Centre being built in the gardens either. They should look for a less sensitive site. There is a case for re-planning the paths -- and bringing back the floral clock that used to be near Rosemount Viaduct. Can I also correct my previous comment. Of course, I meant "north to HM theatre" and "east to Belmont Street, in case anyone noticed my poor sense of direction!
Stuart West
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In answer to Mr. Bloggs who, I suspect, isn't from "around these parts", I'm not very keen on the Peacock Arts Centre being built in the gardens either. They should look for a less sensitive site. There is a case for re-planning the paths -- and bringing back the floral clock that used to be near Rosemount Viaduct. Can I also correct my previous comment. Of course, I meant "north to HM theatre" and "east to Belmont Street, in case anyone noticed my poor sense of direction!
Stuart West
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As all above have said, a concrete slab, you could only have bushes not trees as they plan to have space underneath. It is a pity that Sir Wood could only see fit to put his money on concret instead of upgrading the gardens. Lately in the Evening Express there have been plenty photos of past times in the UTG all being used for various events. That is until our council saw fit to neglect it. So sorry Sir Ian we do not want another contrete area. It seems that the progressive and forward thinking people are not in Sir Woods camp or the ACSEF camp. I am afraid their thinking is the type of thinkins we had that built the monstrosities of St Nicholas House and the John Lewis building to name a few of the uglies things in the city. To concrete over UTG would be the same. At the end of the day Remember _ No money. Why build a concrete slab when we have the cuts to essential services. Wake up and grow up. Get your priorities in the right place. Sir Ian could do a lot more good with this millions, but he will not. Not enough recognition it doing good deeds.
minnie moan a lot
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Forgot to say that Robert Cook wants to build more hotels in Aberdeen. How many are being built at the moment. Where are all the people coming from to use them??? At this rate there will be more hotels in town than houses. AT the costs of the Malmaison hotel, they must be planning on haveing the millionaires parties here. Pity the weather is not as good as Bermuca
minnie moan a lot
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In response to Stuart West, I am very much from 'around these parts'. I have no interest in an arts centre and nor do I suspect do the majority of Aberdonians and NE citizens. If arts your thing, then fine, but let it not be the pivotal point of a civic centre. Sure, no one wants to see a concrete slab - that's what this public consultation is all about - to gauge opinion. I would like to see greenery and flowers as well. But the UTG is a mess as it stands and is largely full of drunken, drug users. So that's a yes to a raised platform, yes to trees, plants, yes to an area that can be used for open air concerts, ice skating, performance arts, international markets. No to an arts centre that will be used by the few. In my opinion at least and as a tax paying member of the public.
Joe Bloggs
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Joe Bloggs Why so dead set on a raised platform? This area could be rejuvenated far more sympathetically and still have areas for concerts (it is a natural amphitheater after all), ice skating, performance arts, international markets and an arts center, all without massive swathes of concrete. Truly enhancing the city and at the same time retaining a unique area of beauty (Princess Street gardens being the only other) in a Scottish City center.
Graeme Smith
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Joe Bloggs Why so dead set on a raised platform? This area could be rejuvenated far more sympathetically and still have areas for concerts (it is a natural amphitheater after all), ice skating, performance arts, international markets and an arts center, all without massive swathes of concrete. Truly enhancing the city and at the same time retaining a unique area of beauty (Princess Street gardens being the only other) in a Scottish City center.
Graeme Smith
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I'm sure a lot of people reading this will remember all those iconic Aberdeen buildings that were successively bulldozed by successive Philistine Labour Councils. Castlehill Barracks: the site of the old castle and the perfect spot for a public park (and a statue of Bruce). Two giant human filing cabinets were built. The "Wallace Tower": shifted to Tillydrone at the insistence of Marks & Spencer. Aberdeen Market: replaced by a British Home Stores block. Majestic Cinema: lovely art-deco building replaced by a square block. The Co-opie Arcade: a real gem replaced by the hideous John Lewis building. There are more. We mustn't allow any more of Aberdeen's heritage to diappear
Stuart West
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I'm sure a lot of people reading this will remember all those iconic Aberdeen buildings that were successively bulldozed by successive Philistine Labour Councils. Castlehill Barracks: the site of the old castle and the perfect spot for a public park (and a statue of Bruce). Two giant human filing cabinets were built. The "Wallace Tower": shifted to Tillydrone at the insistence of Marks & Spencer. Aberdeen Market: replaced by a British Home Stores block. Majestic Cinema: lovely art-deco building replaced by a square block. The Co-opie Arcade: a real gem replaced by the hideous John Lewis building. There are more. We mustn't allow any more of Aberdeen's heritage to diappear
Stuart West
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The problem with Union Terrace Gardens is that they are currently inaccessible. People generally don't want to walk up and down steps to get there, so the gardens are underused. If the gardens were raised to Union St level, they would be used a lot more. Perhaps instead of concreting over the space, the square could be landscaped instead, so that Aberdeen still has a 'green heart', but at street level which everyone could access much more easily.
Steven Archibald
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The problem with Union Terrace Gardens is that they are currently inaccessible. People generally don't want to walk up and down steps to get there, so the gardens are underused. If the gardens were raised to Union St level, they would be used a lot more. Perhaps instead of concreting over the space, the square could be landscaped instead, so that Aberdeen still has a 'green heart', but at street level which everyone could access much more easily.
Steven Archibald
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Well said Mr Cook the sooner the square is built the better.
Roger Davies
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Well said Mr Cook the sooner the square is built the better.
Roger Davies
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How disappointing (and depressing) to see yet another businesman thinking only with his wallet, rather than having any concept of cultural heritage.
Iain Kay
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, which I'm not, but this square/plaza/monstrosity is merely a concept and may not even be given planning permission in the several or so years time and millions of more pounds of designing to come...
Jim Ewen
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This is becoming a very familiar script, the p&J issue a very biased article about how some big shots are supporting the ian wood's civic bunker scheme, the general public give their opinion in the comments about how idiotic an idea it is, and then the P&J eventually write up another article about that public opinion, yet they manage to put a spin on it that makes it look like it's run by a group of renegade rebels. They might as well just pledge their support for ian wood's scheme for all the objectivity they've shown in their reporting. It's Abysmal! Everyone that has been leaving comments is NOT anti progress or backward thinking, but sensible and ambitious, and this should form an indication of what kind of comments are likely to come up in the consultation.. And if you read the next article, bout the acsef now stating it's own petition group in support of the raised slab, is this really what it's going to come to? who's got more facebook friends? obviously nobody cares about public opinion, unless it's to how best to discrdit it..
Ved Mij
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One thing that I believe needs to be considered is the reasons why Sir Ian Wood has proposed this scheme. If you think anyone in their own mind would donate £50 million under the guise of a philanthropist then you must be deluded. Sir Ian Wood has proposed this concept before and has now repeated his sentiments. It is clearly another way of making profit - he is a businessman after all. Also, are the tax paying public really to believe that this whole scheme could be done on a budget of around £140 million. That is ridiculous, think about the sheer amount of cubic excavating of existing landscaping before any steel and concrete structure is even considered! Finally, I have said many times before on this subject and I will continue to vehemently oppose this idea, but if Sir Ian Wood would like to make a positive contribution to this city, and still make money, then he should buy every property on the ground floor of Castle Square and turn it into a definitive cafe area of Aberdeen. We already have a square - it's just a bit desolate. Also Steven, although I do not agree with everything you said, your comments on accessibility are spot on. The Brisac Gonzalez scheme produced a world class sympathetic building for all, which created new routes to and from Union Street. PS, I am very forward thinking, just a bit aware of context.
Bill Simpson
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One thing that I believe needs to be considered is the reasons why Sir Ian Wood has proposed this scheme. If you think anyone in their own mind would donate £50 million under the guise of a philanthropist then you must be deluded. Sir Ian Wood has proposed this concept before and has now repeated his sentiments. It is clearly another way of making profit - he is a businessman after all. Also, are the tax paying public really to believe that this whole scheme could be done on a budget of around £140 million. That is ridiculous, think about the sheer amount of cubic excavating of existing landscaping before any steel and concrete structure is even considered! Finally, I have said many times before on this subject and I will continue to vehemently oppose this idea, but if Sir Ian Wood would like to make a positive contribution to this city, and still make money, then he should buy every property on the ground floor of Castle Square and turn it into a definitive cafe area of Aberdeen. We already have a square - it's just a bit desolate. Also Steven, although I do not agree with everything you said, your comments on accessibility are spot on. The Brisac Gonzalez scheme produced a world class sympathetic building for all, which created new routes to and from Union Street. PS, I am very forward thinking, just a bit aware of context.
Bill Simpson
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One thing that I believe needs to be considered is the reasons why Sir Ian Wood has proposed this scheme. If you think anyone in their own mind would donate £50 million under the guise of a philanthropist then you must be deluded. Sir Ian Wood has proposed this concept before and has now repeated his sentiments. It is clearly another way of making profit - he is a businessman after all. Also, are the tax paying public really to believe that this whole scheme could be done on a budget of around £140 million. That is ridiculous, think about the sheer amount of cubic excavating of existing landscaping before any steel and concrete structure is even considered! Finally, I have said many times before on this subject and I will continue to vehemently oppose this idea, but if Sir Ian Wood would like to make a positive contribution to this city, and still make money, then he should buy every property on the ground floor of Castle Square and turn it into a definitive cafe area of Aberdeen. We already have a square - it's just a bit desolate. Also Steven, although I do not agree with everything you said, your comments on accessibility are spot on. The Brisac Gonzalez scheme produced a world class sympathetic building for all, which created new routes to and from Union Street. PS, I am very forward thinking, just a bit aware of context.
Bill Simpson
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It's also highly ironic to be called "anti progress", when it's ACSEF and Sir Ian whom have stopped dead in its tracks - the move to build a fully approved, 75% funded (and a snip of the cost of the "concrete garden" they are proposing) Arts Centre - which will re-energise and re-populate the gardens.
Philip Thompson
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It's also highly ironic to be called "anti progress", when it's ACSEF and Sir Ian whom have stopped dead in its tracks - the move to build a fully approved, 75% funded (and a snip of the cost of the "concrete garden" they are proposing) Arts Centre - which will re-energise and re-populate the gardens.
Philip Thompson
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I'm unsurprised the loud minority are all over the comments (plenty time to do that when you've either no job or one funded by taxpayers and grants?). I gather from an informative article in the P&J that there's provision for arts in this plan, so don't know why (other than sheer bl**dy minded selfishness) why the arts clique think they should have this entire area all to themselves, the elite artisans want an Ivory tower smack bang in the city centre to lord it over us plebs, and don't want to share, what a surprise. I'm sure a building where a handful of unemployable candle makers and crafts twiddlers idle their days away at the expense of the taxpayer would contribute greatly to the economy. Makes for an enjoyable debate and battle though - the corrupt and inefficient council trying to get their grasping hands on Sir Ian's loot versus the deluded art elite trying to build their shangri-la behind a pretence of public outrage.
Mark Grant
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thanks for that mark, at least we keep it civil and on point. Are you saying that artists who help in regeneration areas to instill confidence and self belief in underprivalaged kids, commit to working for not much money per hour to help people who don't have access to sme of the luxuries most people take for granted "elitist". I advise you visit PVA / Whitespace / Arts Education / City Moves instead of assuming that anyone in the arts is a bored housewife or YBA. please, keep it civil. PS _ I am an artist and work as a designer to fund my practice, so I am not anti business, I am for sympathetic, considerate local business.
Philip Thompson
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thanks for that mark, at least we keep it civil and on point. Are you saying that artists who help in regeneration areas to instill confidence and self belief in underprivalaged kids, commit to working for not much money per hour to help people who don't have access to sme of the luxuries most people take for granted "elitist". I advise you visit PVA / Whitespace / Arts Education / City Moves instead of assuming that anyone in the arts is a bored housewife or YBA. please, keep it civil. PS _ I am an artist and work as a designer to fund my practice, so I am not anti business, I am for sympathetic, considerate local business.
Philip Thompson
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My lord Mark, thats a heap of bile you just spewed up all over us. Thanks for that. BTW in your statement: "I'm unsurprised the loud minority are all over the comments (plenty time to do that when you've either no job or one funded by taxpayers and grants?)." Does this mean you? Since you are clearly the minority here, very loud and you've had the time to post a comment. GET A JOB. Myself? I'm a postman who has 2 small children and born and bred in Aberdeen (has every generation of both sides of my family have been, as far back as I can trace- 17thC). I DO NOT WANT THE GARDENS DESTROYED. I have the right to say that, Ian Wood has asked my opinion and I can assure you he will get it.
John Rutherford
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Mark, your narrow mindedness doesnt deserve a response, however i will thank you for that comment as im still cracking up here, it's hillarious. You truly are a self claimed pleb.
Ved Mij
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Mark, your narrow mindedness doesnt deserve a response, however i will thank you for that comment as im still cracking up here, it's hillarious. You truly are a self claimed pleb.
Ved Mij
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Well no surprise that one bloke with a bit of cash and ego supports another. Of course, neither will spend any time in the centre of Aberdeen having to avert their eyes from a bunch of ugly paving blocks unlike the rest of us. Apparently Aberdonians aren't allowed a bit of culture or green area in the heart of their town, only shops, bars, concrete and funny handshakes make it turn here. Since when was the idea of a 'civic square' forward thinking?? Or maybe we should be grateful that Stewart Milne hasn't come forward with the proposal of a huge hotel stuck in the middle instead, with a casino attached to bring in 'jobs and tourist investment'.
Sara Jameson
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