Tycoon tackles questions over his vision for green space in heart of Granite City

By Morag Lindsay

Published: 01/02/2010

Few topics in recent memory have ignited the imagination of the north-east public quite like Sir Ian Wood’s plan to create a £140million city square on the site currently occupied by Union Terrace Gardens in Aberdeen.

The arguments between supporters of the proposal and those who back the rival bid by Peacock Visual Arts for a contemporary arts cent- re within the existing Victorian park have been fought out on an almost daily basis in the letters page of the Press and Journal in recent months.

Here the Wood Group chairman answers some of the questions posed by readers, and explains why he is so committed to realising this longstanding dream.

Q. Edinburgh has a similar sunken park in the centre of the city, with a railway line running alongside, but no one has ever said Princes Street Gardens should be turned into a civic square. What makes you say Union Terrace Gardens are no longer fit for purpose?

A. The two are totally different. The Denburn dual carriageway and the rail line make up about half of the Aberdeen site and Princes Street itself hasn’t lost its former glory in the way that Union Street has.

The Edinburgh gardens are still popular with the public for concerts, events and everyday visits, whereas schools in Aberdeen have even banned their pupils from going into Union Terrace Gardens because of some of the unsavoury things that go on there.

Q. Isn’t that because Union Terrace Gardens has been allowed to fall into disrepair? Couldn’t Aberdeen City Council encourage people back there at a fraction of the cost of the city square project?

A. Not with the design of the gardens as they are now. They’re 45ft down and they get very little sunlight.

Very few people go down there, or even look down. They’re something to walk round – a big hole in the centre of the city – whereas what we are proposing would give people a reason to come back into the city centre and explore further.

Q. How can you justify tearing out the lungs of the city and replacing the gardens with fake greenery?

A. We want to see at least the same amount of space given over to gardens as we have at present, but if the public tell us they want the entire top level of the city square covered in grass and trees we’ll double it. Many of the trees at the HM Theatre end of the gardens will be left and it may even be possible to engineer the square so that some of the other existing trees can grow through.

Q. But the gardens are part of the city’s history. As an Aberdonian wouldn’t you like to see them preserved?

A. I share people’s concerns about losing part of our heritage, but there are a lot of parts of the existing gardens that can be retained – the arches, the balustrade, the statues, the stone cats on the bridge.

What we are aiming to do is to create a heritage that will still be relevant to people in 100 years.

Q. Why does it have to be this site, instead of any of the others in the city that have been suggested for redevelopment in the past and could arguably benefit more, such as St Nicholas House or the Castlegate?

A. This site is the centre of the city geographically, so it works in a way that the others wouldn’t. It pulls together the Bon Accord and St Nicholas centres, connects them to Union Square through the Green, and leads people on to attractions like the art gallery and the theatre.

A city square could highlight the magnificent architecture all around, stimulate the regeneration of the Triple Kirks and pull people back on to Union Street, restoring it to one of the finest shopping streets in the country again.

Q. You must have some sympathy for the position Peacock Visual Arts finds itself in?

A. I absolutely understand Peacock’s disappointment, but I’m really disappointed this has become a ‘them and us’ situation.

A centre as part of the bigger scheme would cost less and would have a better chance of being viable because there would be more people visiting the square.

The door is always open to Peacock and I’m still hopeful that we can work together. I personally believe the Scottish Government would like to see a contemporary arts centre in Aberdeen – and a city square – and, far from being left with nothing, as some people have suggested, the city could have both.

Q. How can Aberdeen even consider funding a project on this scale when the city council is closing day centres and laying off staff? Wouldn’t all these millions of pounds be better spent on roads and other infrastructure?

A. This scheme won’t be paid for from council revenue budgets. There are other potential funding streams and Aberdeen is long overdue its share of city centre regeneration money.

The Scottish Government is looking into letting cities borrow against future rates growth under the tax investment finance system, which has worked well in other countries. If that’s happening, why shouldn’t it happen for Aberdeen?

Q. And can that really be done with five acres of concrete that could be found in any city in the world?

A. It’s not going to be an anonymous expanse of concrete. The drawings in the feasibility study suggest a five-acre landscaped square on three or four levels, linked by water features and sculptures.

Below that we could have a two-and-a-half-acre concourse housing an arts centre and facilities for kids, families and – importantly – people in their late teens and early-20s who don’t have any other option at the moment but to hit the pubs at night.

Q. The public consultation makes bold statements about the scheme being necessary to safeguard the future prosperity of the city. How can a city square do all that?

A. North Sea oil is winding down, and that will affect the thousands of jobs that depend on it in Aberdeen. We have the potential to move to a world energy city and transfer that expertise into a centre for wind and tidal power, but other places are competing for that business too and right now our city centre is a real negative when it comes to attracting people to live and work here.

We want to give Aberdonians a chance to be proud of their city centre again.

Q. You kicked this off with a pledge of £50million of your own fortune. Have any of your fellow north-east business leaders promised funding too?

A. I haven’t asked anyone for money, but I have had many conversations with people and I believe they will definitely be prepared to put up funding of their own because they see the long-term advantages. Quite rightly they want to wait and see the outcome of the consultation before they make firm promises.

Q. Then there’s the argument that this is simply a vanity project for Sir Ian, and that £50million would go a long way towards transforming the lives of some of the poorer people in the city.

A. I set up the Wood Family Trust two-and-a-half years ago to give £50million to impoverished people around the world, and at the back of my mind I always had this idea about doing something for Aberdeen if I could find just the right project. This was the only one I kept coming back to because I truly believe it could be transformational for the city.

This isn’t about me, I don’t want to be associated with this square forever, I don’t want my name on it. I already have a legacy in the shape of this international business that I’ve been lucky enough to build as part of the North Sea oil generation. If the citizens of Aberdeen decide they don’t want this city square then I’ll just finish up a miserable old Aberdonian who’s £50million better off.

Q. What would make you walk away from this project?

A. Nothing, unless something suddenly occurred that made me think this is not going to fulfil the objectives we have set ourselves. But, as time goes on, and more possibilities open up, I am becoming more committed.

I could very happily have sat back and had a peaceful life and not unwittingly have made myself so unpopular, but I really believe it’s the right thing to do for the long-term future of Aberdeen, and I’ll be really disappointed if the consultation results in a no vote.

Reader's Comments

While I admire Sir Ian for what he has done in the past, this is a step too far. Although he might value his 'vision', lets be honest, in 10-20 years time, it will simply be a square where the local alcoholics, etc. hang out, like they used to when Union Terrace Gardens was more 'open', unless, great care and imagination are put into the plans. To be perfectly honest, if Sir Ian expects the rest of the Aberdeen business community to 'chip in', well he'll get a rude awakening. In Aberdeen the business community is only interested in themselves. Need I remind everybody of Glencraft...nobody rushed forward to help them before they went out of business. Good luck to Sir Ian, but, personally, I think the project is a waste of money, and, could be better utilised elsewhere in the city.
Ian Stewart
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While I admire Sir Ian for what he has done in the past, this is a step too far. Although he might value his 'vision', lets be honest, in 10-20 years time, it will simply be a square where the local alcoholics, etc. hang out, like they used to when Union Terrace Gardens was more 'open', unless, great care and imagination are put into the plans. To be perfectly honest, if Sir Ian expects the rest of the Aberdeen business community to 'chip in', well he'll get a rude awakening. In Aberdeen the business community is only interested in themselves. Need I remind everybody of Glencraft...nobody rushed forward to help them before they went out of business. Good luck to Sir Ian, but, personally, I think the project is a waste of money, and, could be better utilised elsewhere in the city.
Ian Stewart
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I feel sorry for Sir Ian Wood where his ego make him believe he own's Aberdeen he's just another person with a few pounds who is so discontented with his life he hasn't a clue what good he could for Aberdeen with his money
Thomas Owenson
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"...whereas what we are proposing would give people a reason to come back into the city centre and explore further." .... yes but at present you haven't actually proposed anything Sir Ian! ....... "Hey I'm going back to Aberdeen to explore that lovely magnitude of tarmac, it's braw!"
jaco skinny
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I have to agree with Ian Stewart (P&J 02/01/10). While Sir Ian is to be commended for his potential generosity, such a major change in the landscape of the city centre should be the subject of a vote by the citizens. My gut feeling is that it would be opposed by the vast majority, but time will tell.
Ron Campbell
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Please council keep a part of our heritage and an iconic area of Aberdeen safe for future generations to enjoy, here are some pointers. Open toilets New bandstand (with regular bands/shows given free access to use.) Improved access to gardens Perhaps small playpark for toddlers Wardens/Police doing patrols Ice cream/Coffee cafe/stall in summer Chess/draughts boards brought back Cost not an auful lot And yes I am even happy with Peacock arts centre as it blends in with the gardens
Steven Thomson
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Please council keep a part of our heritage and an iconic area of Aberdeen safe for future generations to enjoy, here are some pointers. Open toilets New bandstand (with regular bands/shows given free access to use.) Improved access to gardens Perhaps small playpark for toddlers Wardens/Police doing patrols Ice cream/Coffee cafe/stall in summer Chess/draughts boards brought back Cost not an auful lot And yes I am even happy with Peacock arts centre as it blends in with the gardens
Steven Thomson
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"Q. The public consultation makes bold statements about the scheme being necessary to safeguard the future prosperity of the city. How can a city square do all that? A. North Sea oil is winding down, and that will affect the thousands of jobs that depend on it in Aberdeen. We have the potential to move to a world energy city and transfer that expertise into a centre for wind and tidal power, but other places are competing for that business too and right now our city centre is a real negative when it comes to attracting people to live and work here. We want to give Aberdonians a chance to be proud of their city centre again." Again with the rhetoric. Can you just answer this question which you have been asked time and time again. How will the Square safeguard jobs in Aberdeen. Just by saying that "it will" is not a tangible answer. Surely the "Energetica" project is what you are thinking of when you always answer this question. What is the link from City Square to thousands of jobs that will save Aberdeen when the oil business is gone?
John Rutherford
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I will be great to do this Q and A session with people who represent the peacock scheme.
John Rutherford
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Steve Thomson, actually has a very good idea. Free concerts. It isn't that long ago, that I remember my Dad playing in Union Terrace Gardens, back in the early 90's, with his Jazz Band. Now it might not have been everybody's taste, but, it was free, and, brought the 'punters' in. Since the Castlegate fiasco at Hogmanay, let's move it into Union Terrace gardens. Small, local bands, could play. Rather than spending a fortune, bringing in bands, that have their better years behind.
Ian Stewart
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the gardens have to be kept, and upgrade, as for unsavory people what do they actually mean, dont we have police put a warden in there instead of collecting parking tickets, put super lighting so it is well lit at night, Aberdeen council have just not tried, let Sir Ian get his tax relief else where.
bob seivwright
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bob seivwright
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It's amazing isn't it that Sir Ian apparently knows what everyone thinks about the gardens (apart from ALL the people writing to ask not to destroy it - or the near 6000 people who've signed the I <3 UTG petition). "Very few people go down there, or even look down" Really? perhaps people should look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pZG_hvQWMI and think about the tartan day parade etc - plenty of people "using" the gardens - why? because people were asked to go there... all we need to do is do it more often! not concrete over the thing! And, there's a massive entrance to the side of HMT - so disabled access is already catered for (and the PVA building will have more access anywway, just ask Anne Begg) - we just need to spruce it up - cost? - no where near the 70+ million shortfall in order to help Sir Ian Secure his "legacy" - for us? no thanks! for him? "yes please"... please set up a fund for disadvantaged Aberdonians sir Ian with 50 million - everyone would think you were Archie Pluff - I'd even buy you a pint.
Philip Thompson
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Sir Wood says that Edinburgh's Princess Street hasn't lost its glory. Now that is a telling answer. Instead of ruining the gardens do something about Union Street. Could it be because of all the malls we have Bon Accord, St Nicholas, Trinity and now Union Square that all the good and nice shops have vanished from Union Street. Whose fault is that??? The people of Aberdeen or Aberdeen City Council. Putting a concrete "Civic Square" in the centre will not make Union Street look any better. So Sir Wood your "Vision" would be just another concrete slab. And can you tell me how the existing trees could be allowed to grow through 45ft??? That is really taking your vision to realms of fantasy. For our council to be considering this and giving money to fund the consultation is disgraceful. If they had done their jobs the gardens would still be used daily by the ordinary people. Perhaps not the millionaires. His money could do so much more and would not lose himself respect. AS it stands I find it hard to respect a man who thinks that ruining a garden would improve the city. This is still an ego trip.
minnie moan a lot
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i think this was a good Q&A session, and fair play to Sir Ian. The union square would be great for Aberdeen, as would the Peacock centre if it is the only development that goes ahead. It would not just be another "concrete" slab, there is the potential to have just as much green space as there is currently. Trees are more capable than people think, and the edge trees could quite readily be integrated into the scheme.
jamie Cowie
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To add to this discussion.... Does Sir Ian expect all the 'rich' golfers going to Donald Trumps new 'resort' to visit the city centre??? I suspect not. I suspect they will jet into the airport (once the runway has been extended I might add), get a taxi (if there are any available, should more than one flight land at the same time), and go directly to the golf course. This is a pointless exercise, the Peacock 'vision' such as it is, is more suited to the city.
Ian Stewart
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"This scheme won't be paid for from Council revenue budgets". Both ASCEF and sir Ian Wood are very careful about their wording here. As mentioned last week, the council have flagged the possibility of leveraging council properties as a means to help fund the City Square. This probably means borrowing money, paying interest on the loan and putting up assets as collateral. Given the council are reportedly £50 million in debt, this is difficult to believe but they haven't denied it yet. Interestingly ASCEF in a public notice in this paper also mention leveraging value as a funding option. Whether this is just vague wording or confirmation of what has been written in council minutes, only they will know.
mike shepherd
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"What would make you walk away from this project? Nothing ...." When the scheme was launched, it was mentioned in the press that sir Ian Wood would only support the scheme if it gained popular approval. Now it looks as if he's changed his mind. Maybe it's because the plan does not have popular approval and many in the city are jumping up and down in fury at the thought of this ghastly concrete monstrosity being built.
mike shepherd
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Where will we erect his bronze statue? Next to William or Robert.......
Fiona Cooper
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"our city centre is a real negative". Many disagree. I'm proud of Aberdeen and its buildings. Aberdeen probably has the most old buildings intact of any UK city. The granite doesn't weather so the old buildings look brand new. The architecture is very distinctive too. The Victorian style of Union Terrace Gardens complements the old buildings beautifully. A 6 and half acre civic square (not 5 acres sir ian) would be about twice the size of Trafalgar Square in London and slightly bigger than the Red Square in Moscow. It would be total folly to use public money for such a grandiose scheme.
mike shepherd
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A really interesting set of questions by the P&J..well done. In the interest of fairness and balance it would surely now be appropriate to devote a full page of similiar questions to those responsible for the Peacock proposals, then the public could make up their mind...thats consultation.
John Park
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So Sir Ian. If it is a no vote then you will walk away from 'this' project? Godd to know. Now over to the citizens of Aberdeen to carry on ensuring that this happens.
Jim Ewen
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Dear Jim, I had the worrying misfortune to hear Dave Blackwood at one of the "private invite only" public consultations say "it's not a numbers game" - so i have no idea what constitutes "the public saying no" to this project. I'd be interested to see if ACSEF / Webber Shandwick take into account the I <3 UTG petition? - seeing as someone has started a "pro City Square" petition - and Dave Blackwood has signed it (and his family members)... I'd like an answer on that one please!
Philip Thompson
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All this debate looks as if it is a done deal. The council is keeping mum on it ACSEF is only interested in the Wood project and no matter what we say Sir Wood will not back down. Seem fair to you- No way. No Kevin Stewart is blaming Peacock for using "public funds" for propaganda against the project. Why is there no critism of ACSEF using public funds on a so called "Public Consultation" that is nothing but propaganda. So much for the morals of the ACC. Now it seems they might have another year in office. That really beggars belief. They can easily get more money in their coffer, just get rid of some of the councilors, as the people certainly don't know what they do except sit and think up ways to spend more of the public money. Like this grotesque monstosity "Vision" of Sir Wood. As for the gardens get very little sun that shows how much he knows about the gardens. Another millionaire wanting to throw their money and weight about. Keep the Peacock project. They were there before he threw his money into the pot. Just shows what money can buy. People all over the place that we the public put in office.
minnie moan a lot
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So Union Terrace Gardens are "a big hole in the centre of the city" according to Sir Ian. He goes on to say "this site is the centre of the city geographically, so it works in a way that the others wouldn’t. It pulls together the Bon Accord and St Nicholas centres, connects them to Union Square through the Green". Acsef maintin that this is a civic, not a commercial venture - and yet here is their only patron explicity saying that a "hole" which many folk are exceptionally proud and fond of, should be filled in so that people can get from one shopping centre to another that little bit easier. All the while avoiding Union Street, which Sir Ian claims he wants to see back to its former glory. I must say I find myself confused at this point. It appears that, by promising everything to everyone, the City Square Project folk have got themselves a little bit tied up in knots. Describing Union Terrace Gardens as "a big hole" takes the biscuit, though. What an insult, particularly after purring about Edinburgh's Princes St Gardens. Is Sir Ian saying that Edinburgh is capable of running a gardens successfully, but as Aberdeen is only capable of filling them with danger and junkies (or any other Daily Mail style scare figures they think of) then we should have done with them and remove them forever? It sounds a lot like it.
Richard Fraser
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"right now our city centre is a real negative when it comes to attracting people to live and work here" - but not quite as much of a negative as the increasing lack of local services. Sir Ian has obviously forgotten that the majority of people who work here have to rely on council funded facilities, and as such are far more worried about closure of swimming pools and day centres, and primary school cut backs... apparently there are "other sources of possible funding" - such as?? Until the people of Aberdeen have a straight answer about where exactly the extra millions to pay for this scheme are going to come from, how can he expect anyone to support it? Its very convenient for Sir Ian and his allies to turn this into a "them and us" battle with Peacock; far easier to deal with a small contemporary arts centre than the actual FACT of the problem which is that Aberdeen cannot afford this. He is confusing want and need; even worse he is confusing what he wants with what Aberdeen needs. Perhaps someone should remind him the last thing this city NEEDED - a new Childrens Hospital - was paid for by the people of Aberdeen. Im sure a spare 50 million would have been really useful, but it wasn't on offer; perhaps not as fitting or attractive to Sir Ian as a civic square. This is nothing more than one mans vanity project; the people of this city are not stupid enough to think we can afford it, even if Sir Ian is deluded enough to think the Scottish Government are for some reason going to lend us the money while we close our social support services down.
Victoria Waugh
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Sir Ian says this has become a 'them and us' situation, but it's so much more than that. Of course Peacock's supporters are outraged and are voicing their anger, but a huge number of people object to this disgraceful proposition for other reasons. Destroying a mature, natural, historical garden, the only green space left in the city centre is a proposal that has shocked many people, particularly when the Castlegate is crying out for a revamp. I'd like to have seen a question about why Sir Ian is not willing to compromise with Peacock - some great suggestions have been put forward but he'll only give his £50 million if it's done his way. To ensure impartial reporting, I'm looking forward to seeing the same Q&A style feature involving representives from Peacock.
Kate MacKenzie
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Sir Ian says this has become a 'them and us' situation, but it's so much more than that. Of course Peacock's supporters are outraged and are voicing their anger, but a huge number of people object to this disgraceful proposition for other reasons. Destroying a mature, natural, historical garden, the only green space left in the city centre is a proposal that has shocked many people, particularly when the Castlegate is crying out for a revamp. I'd like to have seen a question about why Sir Ian is not willing to compromise with Peacock - some great suggestions have been put forward but he'll only give his £50 million if it's done his way. To ensure impartial reporting, I'm looking forward to seeing the same Q&A style feature involving representives from Peacock.
Kate MacKenzie
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"I absolutely understand Peacock’s disappointment, but I’m really disappointed this has become a ‘them and us’ situation." Mr Wood seems blind to the fact that it is entirely the fault of his consultant process that it has become a "them and us situation". That's because the consultation he and Ascef have instigated is no more than an PP exercise run by a PR company on Ascef's behalf that excluded the Peacock proposal from the outset. It would be good to see some honesty in this but there is no sign of it in Mr Wood's comments. Since when did business people have the credentials to get involved in town planning matters? The City Square project is really about commercialisation of public space. There seems to be an over-riding perception that what is available for access without charge to the public must be converted into business rate raising / profit making for private enterprise. This is of course a form of 'theft' and one that the citizens of Aberdeen should guard against. Of course if we had a decently run council then there might be money in the public coffers to offer the public free access to events, displays, whatever, in UTG as happened in the past. Given that this is the oil capital of Europe why can't private enterprise contribute in an altruistic way to the city without seeking profit from their 'giving'. How can a Council in such a rich part of Scotland be in such a dire financial state? The oil industry has given virtually nothing back to Aberdeen by way of infrastructure or legacy, yet they have made enormous profit from their time here. If Mr Wood really wants to contribute he should offer his money (most welcome) no strings attached other than to spend on improving the infrastructure / visual appearance of the city and leave to those who have a more informed position on how best it might be spent.
Mike Miller
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"It pulls together the Bon Accord and St Nicholas centres, connects them to Union Square through the Green". Excuse me? Has Sir Ian looked at a map lately? Since when does UTG sit between St Nic's and the Green? Who would walk that tortuous route to get from Bon Accord to Union Square? Forget it man, you can't pull the wool over the eyes of an entire city! if he wants to do some good and put a heart back in the city he should go read the councils Bon Accord Quarter and Urban Realm Strategy on their website
Brian Christie
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"It pulls together the Bon Accord and St Nicholas centres, connects them to Union Square through the Green". Excuse me? Has Sir Ian looked at a map lately? Since when does UTG sit between St Nic's and the Green? Who would walk that tortuous route to get from Bon Accord to Union Square? Forget it man, you can't pull the wool over the eyes of an entire city! if he wants to do some good and put a heart back in the city he should go read the councils Bon Accord Quarter and Urban Realm Strategy on their website
Brian Christie
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Woody if your going to retire or stand down ? Why don't you do a bit of gardening? You don't have a reputation of being that generous towards anyone. Is this your way of forgivness? Destroying Union Terrace Gardens.....
Fiona Cooper
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