Anger at Trump showcase as opponent told: Clear off

By Calum Ross

Published: 13/03/2010

A key member of Donald Trump’s golf resort team was involved in an angry confrontation with protesters at the launch of a public exhibition on the planned £1billion development.

The US businessman’s project director, Neil Hobday, told a vocal anti-Trump campaigner to “clear off” during the heated clash. He accused David Milne – who has refused to sell up to make way for the scheme on the Menie Estate – of attempting to “hijack” the exhibition.

“This is not the David Milne show,” Mr Hobday shouted across the room.

“This is here for the public. Pick your own platform, pay for it somewhere else, invite the media and do it there.

“Just clear off, clear off.”

Mr Milne, of Hermit Point, responded by saying he had been invited to the event at the Udny Arms Hotel at Newburgh.

Mr Hobday retorted: “You were not invited here to hold court. You are trying to hijack the whole show.”

It followed a speech deliver-ed by Mr Milne to members of the media, in which he held a magnifying glass to a map of the development, pointing to 144 parking spaces and 136 holiday flats planned for the site of his home.

He had also asked questions of the consultants behind the plans. “By taking this all the way to compulsory purchase for a commercial leisure development, they are effectively declaring war,” Mr Milne said.

“If this goes ahead, no one in any part of the country will be safe in their homes.”

After the altercation, Mr Hobday said he stood by his remarks and accused Mr Milne of “spouting misinformation” about the project.

He said: “I felt it was inappropriate for him to use this platform, at our cost, to do this, so I stopped him.

“I told him that he could go elsewhere on his own time, invite the media and he can put his own story over, but not on our time, not on our platform and not in our public exhibition.”

The Trump team had invited the four families whose homes could be bought by Aberdeenshire Council using compulsory purchase orders unless an agreement is reached over their sale.

Mr Milne said afterwards he was not surprised by Mr Hobday’s remarks.

“It just exemplifies the antics and arrogance of this organisation,” he said.

Sarah Malone, executive vice-president of Trump International Golf Links Scotland, said Mr Milne would be asked to leave if he “exploited” any future events.

She said: “He was making declarations and statements which were false. The manner in which he was speaking to our consultants was entirely inappropriate. He was exploiting the opportunity. He was being aggressive.

“I think passions and emotions were running high. If this happens again, he will be asked to leave.”

The plans for golf courses, a hotel, clubhouse, holiday homes and houses were submitted to the council last month and are expected to be considered later this year.

Reader's Comments

Does anyone know if the Council still has the power to evict the council tax payers who lie in the way of this millionaires plans? Sorry to confuse, I don’t mean the millionaire who has laid down his plans to redraw UTG , I mean the millionaire who has laid down his plans to evict solely to improve his golfer's views ( his words) . Note I am a keen links golfer but never have I questioned whether a golf course is 'great' based solely on the view from the tee . So why is this millionaire insisting ad nauseum: ' ITS MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY!' ( I am still on about the Mennie millionaire just now , not to be confused with the UTG millionaire, though regular readers may begin to see some similarities emerging)
wind bag
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I think this paragraph is interesting ‘’The Trump team had invited the four families whose homes could be bought by Aberdeenshire Council using compulsory purchase orders unless an agreement is reached over their sale’ In other words if you don’t sell your land (so we can improve our golfers view) to us then we will slap CPO’s on the lot of you. What a bunch of arrogant baskets, just go ahead and build your golf course and leave these families alone. Looks like one multi millionaire is as arrogant and childish as the other
Robert Horne
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"Sarah Malone ... said: “He was making declarations and statements which were false. The manner in which he was speaking to our consultants was entirely inappropriate. He was exploiting the opportunity. He was being aggressive." Now that's no way to talk about your boss Sarah...
John Strimmer
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"Sarah Malone ... said: “He was making declarations and statements which were false. The manner in which he was speaking to our consultants was entirely inappropriate. He was exploiting the opportunity. He was being aggressive." Now that's no way to talk about your boss Sarah...
John Strimmer
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What a miserable shower! A person comes to Aberdeen to make a multimillion pound investment that will create hundreds and hundreds of non oil related jobs and look at the response he gets! Why would anybody want to invest in the North East?
Sean Swindells
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Sarah Malone states that David Milne's behaviour was entirely inappropriate and aggressive. After watching the Reporting Scotland news item on this public exhibition last night, surely it was Neil Hobday whose behaviour was entirely inappropriate and aggressive towards David Milne. Neil Hobday showed himself up to be a bully of epic proportions.
JENNY WATSON
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What is it with the North East??? They will fall backwards and ask how high to jump if any millionaire shows an interestin the area. Never mind the folks whose houses are in question. No way - as millionaire wants their land so that is OK. Just where are all the jobs. OK the builders they will be busy for a few years. Yes the hotel will need staff. The golf course will need employees. The houses for the rich will need cleaners. So apart from that- who else gets a job?? As for Neil Hobday, his remarks were just what you would expect from another hanger on. Petty and childish. Bet his boss was very pleased though with him. Learning from the master is he???
minnie moan a lot
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What a bunch of Private Frazers, were doomed a' tell ye, doomed. I hope on one of Trumps rich pals likes the fitba an buys out Milne, he could then concentrate on Lord Wood of Buckieden's big square.
Tam Glen
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Am I the only one that found it suspicious that the protesters were there when the TV cameras were there? The protseters tried to hijack an event for their purposes and they should be ashamed.
Doug Donaldson
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Compulsory purchase orders were brought into being to allow infrastructure programmes to go ahead unimpeded. Given a golf course can in no way be considered "infrastructure", it would be a travesty if it is used in the Menie Estate instance. David Milne was correct to point out proposed buildings on his land. The Trump organisation does not own that land and therefor had no right to formulate plans for it.
Ron Campbell
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Although i do not agree with the fact that Mr Hobday shouted, i also do not agree with what Mr Milne said and the way he acted, during this public presentation. I was there at the time, and more childish behaviour from both i have not seen before. Mr Milne wanted to make the Trump organisation look like bullies and that is what he managed. The camera showed only one side to this, i was there and there was a lot more goading from Mr Milne, Mr Milne wanted a platform at someone else's expense, he was very much out of order, but the Trump organisation should realise this is the only tactic the anti Trump organisation understands.
Neil Fraser
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This grand scheme has my support as long as this American dude makes 100% financial committment.
Fiona Cooper
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Well done to David Milne for his peaceful and respectful questioning of the Trump masterplan. Once again TIGL shows it's true bullying colours in the abusive manner with which they treated him. The Trump organisation has adopted the tactics of the bully from day one as far as I can tell. What right do they have to threaten and continue to threaten residents of our lands with homelessness so that they can add a few more points to their stock market billions? These greedy entrepreneurs should be given the boot in my opinion. And what right do they have really - to commit acts of vandalism on SSSI sites that are the rightfull inherritance of Scotlands inhabitants ? NONE! As for local jobs - last I looked Ireland wasn't local - which is where his recent contract of works was awarded. Is there anyone outside of Trumps family who can vouch for his ability to keep his promises ?
bill boggia
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What nice people the Trumps employ. If that's what they're like on camera imagine what they're like when they're not being filmed. Is that the sort of people we want around?
David Cutteridge
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The vast majority of the North-East population must be getting heartily sick of the continuing obstructionalism being employed by the vociferous and,largely, non-indigenous serial protestors who girn about the Menie resort, the Western Peripheral Road, or anything else they opine to be of economic and social "detriment" to our part of modern Scotland. Mr. Milne and his like would be advised to get out of their "bunkers" and support these ambitious and postive developments.
Stuart West
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Stuart West.. Which part of Scotland is Modern??? We are still driving around in roads from the 1960's.. Edinburgh is goin back to Trams in Princess Street,F.F.S. An American is trying to extract people from their "bunkers". A Millionaire is trying to fill a perfectly formed garden, but neglected by the council, with concrete. Union Street looks like a scene from World War 2, probably more so, Friday & Saturday nights but not much better during the day according to a Hotel owner at Pitfoddels. The W.P.R. has been ongoing for nearly 50 years And Aberdeen football team hina won anything since the Pitfoddels owner's father-in-law was the chairman of Pittodrie.... for the records I am an indigenous species... :-)
Lord Lucan
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Some people realy need to wake up! Aberdeen, the North East, infact the whole of Scotland needs this investment! Why is it we always have to make such a fuss over things, when people actualy want to come here and try and make things better. The oil money wont last forever, we need this.
Gregory Law
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Can I suggest you all stop buying the biased P & J and read the article in the Herald then form your own oppinion as to who was being loud and aggresive.I have to ask is this Mr Hobday the same man who started a golf resort at Spean Bay and run out of money leaving it half built. Perhaps someone could correct me if I am wrong. I do however think Mr Milne's antics with a magnifying glass was justifoed after all how would we like to have our homes built over by a car par etc.
Christina Crosley
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Is |Mr Hobday also the same person who ordered security thugs to surround Debra Storr's car and then made up a previously unheard of offence of "taking illegal photographs" to justify this intimidation?
Bill Harrison
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Lord Lucan. If you aren't ashamed of your "localness", why use a silly alias? Say it loud and say it proud. Ask yourself: Aberdeen is the "Oil Capital of Europe" but we have still have inadequate roads. This,and the delay in building the Aberdeen by-pass, is because, until three years ago, the people were prepared to put up with "absentee" government and funding from London. The hugely expensive Edinburgh tram system has been opposed by the Scottish Government ever since the idea was mooted. Donald Trump had a Scottish mother, which is more than can be said for most of the people who oppose the Menie development. Personally, I have always opposed the destruction of the gardens at Union Terrace -- either by concreting over or building anything in the valley. Union Street used to be dominated by English building societies and shoe shops. There are still very few, if any, local shops. As for the Dons -- I'm just as frustrated as you!.
Stuart West
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Neil, some very well balanced comments coming from you, thanks , but you err on just one issue (I think). Why are the homes to be demolished anyway? Trump says they are for him an 'eyesore'. Err, thats it. That reasoning alone makes him a monster. This protest is all about evictions and nothing about golfing investment ( which I support 100 per cent). Sorry we will have to agree to disagree on this central question of 'views-from-the-tee versus living space' , or as an infamous person called it 60 years ago, 'lebansraum'.
wind bag
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Sorry, above post is incorrect , 5th sentence be replaced saying : "Allegedly , for that reasoning alone, for some people that makes him a ..etc ". Appologies.
wind bag
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Further to above, I also withdraw the entire last sentence of the post entitled " Sorry we have to agree to disagree". Appologies again.
wind bag
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I assume Stuart West also approved of the Highland Clearances. There is something utterly repugnant at the vision of 'Scotsmen on the make' that the Trump development and the UTG debacle conjures up. What is it in the psyche of the Scot that will have them sell their souls to the devil for a handful of silver? Mr Milne is absolutely right to regard his home as 'his castle'. Mr Trump should be sent off with a flea in his ear for having the arrogance to expect this man's home to be swept away just because he thinks its an eyesore. A handful of politicians have decided to sell off what is not theirs to sell in exchange for a handful of poorly paid hospitality sector jobs. Who is Mr West kidding by suggesting that this is going to replace the oil industry in terms of wealth creation for the local community. Soon the area surrounding the Menie estate will have a housing problem akin to that in the Highlands, with local young people being unable to compete against those who are not quite rich enough to be able to buy Trump's offerings.
Sheila Forbes
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The Trump Organisation has kindly said that they will not renew their request for Aberdeenshire Council to use Compulsory Purchase Order - for the whole of March. That's 17 days then. My councillor colleagues have refused to rule using such powers against my constituents at Menie. Neil Hobday's behaviour is no surprise to me. I hold him responsible for detaining me on the road to Mill of Menie last year.
Debra Storr
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As usual not one of these pro Trump pro Wood can give a reasonalbe answer to the question of "Where is all this economic benefits coming from. A golf course at Balmedie, houses, hotel etc etc. How is that going to help the economy of Aberdeen. ARe they all going to come and see the glorius concreted "Gardens" Will they have to pay to walk on it??? As Spence says he adives his guests to wear blindfolds. so how is that going to benefit us. Mr Milne had every right tob be at the show. He and others were invitied. What did Trumps bully boys think was going to happen, They would suddenly say oh what a great idea, just get rid of my house. Even Trump & co cannot be that stupid. They invited the protesteres so that they could look good and it backfired on them. I have lived here all my life and proud to be Scots, but am totally ashamed of the way that some people are kowtowing to the millionairs. At best they are bullies and no amount of telling us that it is for our own good these ventures. This is all about their own money making schemes. They did not get to be millionaires, by looking after others.
minnie moan a lot
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Right so David Milne is at risk of having his home turned into a golf course car park because a millionaire wants it, yet people here are claiming Mr Milne is in the wrong? Excuse me?
Funky Chunk
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I am astonished at Sarah Malones description of events in the article above. The planning exhibtion was full of members of the public, including television cameras. And I don't believe anyone could truthfully agree that Ms Malone is being accurate. To wrongly accuse David Milne of being "aggressive" and "false", I find highly slanderous and was no doubt said (to jounalists she had later taken aside), in the hope that newspapers would print a misinformed version of what had happened. I can remember reading that Ms Malone described herself as being, "no wallflower" when speaking about working in a military museum, and I expect her days of studying at Cambridge have left her with contempt for north east Scotland and the belief that we would fall so easily for her devious misdirection.
Sean Ashley
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How on earth can someone be label a protestor for not selling his home? I don't care what the benefits to the area are, to suggest using compulsory purchase orders for this purpose is just plain wrong and Mr Milne is perfectly entitled to use whatever means at whatever press event to highlight this potential injustice.
Brian Christie
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