Council goes to court over woman’s pile of unpaid tickets

Aberdeen driver faces £18,000 bill for parking

By Calum Ross and Alistair Beaton

Published: 02/06/2010

Aberdeen City Council will go to court today to try to recover more than £18,000 in parking fines issued to a north-east motorist.

The local authority is taking legal action against Claire Williams – a 27-year-old assistant at a city law firm – after she ignored dozens of parking tickets.

She had a pile of the £60 penalty notices inside her black Volkswagen Beetle as it was parked in North Silver Street, and admitted there were many more in her office.

The council will launch an action against her at Aberdeen Sheriff Court, just two days after agreeing a raft of strict new measures to crack down on rogue parkers. The council has the power to impound and destroy persistent offenders’ cars – but a spokesman declined last night to say if that would be considered in this case.

Council leader John Stewart said: “I think once someone reaches a particular level of disregard for the rules, I don’t think it is disproportionate to have these sanctions. I certainly think (taking Ms Williams to court) is the right action to take. We should be pursuing people to the maximum, particularly when they have substantial sums like that.” Ms Williams works as an assistant at Lindsay and Kirk solicitors and estate agents in Huntly Street and lives at Pitmedden.

She said yesterday: “I cannot afford parking. I cannot afford anything.

“I have some debt problems and, to be totally honest, parking fines were not at the front of my mind.

“I used to live in Aberdeen and I had a parking permit but I moved to Pitmedden and couldn’t use it any more. I have kept just about all of the tickets and have photocopies of them. I have almost all of them at my office.

“I have paid some of them and I have kept the paperwork – I understood it was about £18,000 of fines.”

Ms Williams, who is originally from Aberdeen, added she had been in contact with the council and planned to pay the fines. Last night, her home was deserted, with no black Beetle in the drive.

Neighbours at Pitmedden’s Croftland said they were astonished by the number of parking fines involved.

One man said: “It’s outrageous. I believe she works with a legal firm, and that makes it even worse.”

Another neighbour said: “I have seen her coming and going in her Beetle, but only know her to say ‘Hello’ to. It seems incredible anyone could build up that amount in unpaid parking fees.

“Maybe she will have to sell her car – but that wouldn’t be enough to pay it back.”

It was revealed earlier this year that the local authority is due more than £2million in unpaid fines from hundreds of motorists, with one Aberdeen driver alone racking up 300 parking tickets.

Opposition Labour councillor Willie Young said people would be “horrified” by the level of outstanding fines. “It is absolutely ridiculous for one person to have so many tickets,” he said.

“The ordinary citizens of Aberdeen who pay to park their cars will be horrified so many tickets have been issued to this person. They will also question why the city council has allowed such a situation to develop without, it would appear, anything being done about it.”

Councillors also agreed on Monday that the £60 fines should be increased to £80, with the introduction of the new charge dependent on the publication of revised Scottish Government guidelines.

In Aberdeen, illegal parkers currently face a £60 fine, which can be reduced to £30 if it is paid within two weeks, but rises to £90 if it is has not been paid within 63 days.

Reader's Comments

Call the bailiffs!
Alan Craigie
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Here, here Alan. Why on earth was this bill allowed to mount to such a rediculous level ? If this lady can't afford parking and works office hours, there is a perfectly adeqaute bus service from Pitmedden to Aberdeen. It's time she started using it !
Ron Campbell
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Sell the Beetle, that'll pay for 4 tickets. The council will never get all (any of) the money back but don't worry about it, they'll just put parking fines up so other people can pay for it. You can't expect her to catch the bus cos it's full of junkies, single mothers and old people
Alan Partridge
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She obviously thought it quite funny as all the photos of her with her car she was laughing and smiling. She know what whe was doing was wrong. Her car should be taken and sold to help pay for some of the debt. It is also incredible that the council knows who it was, they had the number plate, so why did they do nothing. Doesno't say much for the wardens to not inform their bosses that they were issuing tickets daily to an illegal parked car and did nothing else about it. Why they would consider raising the fines when people are not paying the ones already in place. This will just make more people do what this idiotic woman did and seems quite pleased with herself. Don't know who is worse. The one who did the offence, or the council for letting her get away with it. Confiscate her car and she cannot be issued with any more parking tickets.
minnie mo
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That equates to a parking fine every day for over 2 years so why hasn't the council taken action before. As for not being able to afford it, this woman is taking the proverbial. Get the bus you lazy woman.
William Hindley
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Hey Claire check out www.quickquid.co.uk only 2413% APR which means it would be cheaper to borrow the money for the meter than pay a fine, you'll be laughing all the way to the pawn shop
Alan Partridge
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If she can't afford to pay the parking meter, what exactly does she run that thing on? Is she bilking? And I bet them sunglasses didn't come from the thrifter
Alan Partridge
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And that peroxide doesn't come cheap these days
Alan Partridge
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"Last night, her home was deserted, with no black Beetle in the drive." - Just how necessary is it to send reporters round to stake out her house? Surely the court action against her is all that's required? Or am I going to have an EE journo raking through my bins because I miss a credit card payment?
Colin Occupants
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She will have ahuge amount of debt and probrably does not care about the parking, the problem with debt, is if you put her in jail or fine her she will just add it on, if she loses her job no-one will get anything. Her wages need to be arrested at source, but then maybe some of the other debt will be more important, if we all did this with the parking you know they cant do anything. worth a thought
bob seivwright
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bob seivwright
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In Canada you can't renew your driving license or car registration if you have outstanding tickets. Of course it would cost billions to implement here.
Alan Craigie
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This is very sad. It really isn't her fault - she's just going through the motions of a civilisation obsessed with image and consumption. Poor Claire (the victim) has been very busy buying things she doesn't need, with money she doesn't have, in order to impress people she doesn't like - as she believes is her credit-card-given right. In fact, in her opinion, it's a duty! She wouldn't want people to think she was poor or (heaven forbid) ordinary, now would she? But now, rather than discharging her obigation to pay for the services she uses (or, rather, pay the forfeit for failing to do so) she issues us with a breezy "I have some debt problems" excuse, keeps calm and carries on. After all, there's no such thing as obligation, there's only entitlement. There's no such thing as rules, there's only opinions. There's no such thing as society, there's only shopping.
Ludvig von Mises
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I hope the court takes the appropriate action against this woman - if not then as far as I can see they are saying that it is okay for anyone to park their car anywhere in the city. And they should be pursuing the rest of the rogue drivers throughout the city. Make her pay the money – if she cannot then confiscate her car AND jail her – after all , she has broken the law and should be dealt with accordingly.
Nomie Pom
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@ Colin Occupants - re journos raking bins for CC bills. That would, of course be out of order - that debt's a private matter between the cardholder and the issuing bank. But, in the case of poor Claire here, the journos are acting in the public interest - Claire owes *us* - the mass of Council Tax paying citizens - this money.
Ludvig von Mises
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if ms williams had attached a caravan to her volkswagon,nothing,regarding fines,would have been done....
daz windturbine
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When there are no legal on-street spaces available, the residents in my part of Aberdeen cleverly avoid parking tickets by parking on the pavement. I note that 'paveparking' is becoming increasingly popular all over town. The beauty is that city wardens are powerless to prevent this convenient option for the put-upon motorist, as it is a police matter requiring a specific complaint of obstruction to be made by a member of the public This involving collecting statements, evidence, police visits, etc etc - and who can be bothered with that?! So, if only poor Claire had known that if she could 'pavepark' with impunity - nothing bad would have happened to her! The inconvenience caused to pedestrians, the infirm, mothers with buggies, etc is a minor matter, what's wrong with them anyway? Can't they afford a nice car?
Ludvig von Mises
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gin my personal opinion i found that some of these comments that had been left on this page where slightly innapropriate considering the fact that it is highly unlikely that any of you know claire personally and i find some of them were putting her down as a person and making assumptions regarding her personal life which are entirely unfounded and are not true. I agree with the fact that its innapropriate to owe this ammount of money however id also like to say that people need to think more about other peoples feelings, by this i mean that you do not realise what has happend in peoples personal lifes im aware that it does not count as an excuse but i think before people can comment they should know all the details when they are making comments that are personal and not just regarding the parkimg fines. I bet people would see it in a different light if hit was one of your children or parents or genarly just a friend or family member.maybe you should go and look at some other problems in the area of aberdeen that cause a danger to people instead of things that really dont affect you however much you think they do.
freddy kruger
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Right Freddy. Even when someone exhibits a complete lack personal responsibility were not allowed to critisise. No wonder there's so many feckless irresponsible people about. That's what the Nanny state produces. Council needs to grow a pair and come down hard on these idiots.
Alan Craigie
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@freddy. Are you suggesting that Claire was *forced* by circumstances beyond her control to help herself to (steal) services for which she had intention of paying? Are you saying she was *compelled* by outside forces to disregard the penalty notices she then received for this? You say it's "inappropriate" to "owe" such a large amount of money - but these are weasel words. She does not "owe" this money - that implies a consensual relationship between a borrower and a lender - rather, she has in fact accrued £18k of Penalty Charge Notices for wholly avoidable and continued breaches of Civil Law. This is not "inappropriate", it's reprehensible. Ever heard of the Social Contract?
Ludvig von Mises
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actualy instead of trying to find somebody to argue with you should look at the point i was making i was saying that its not very nice to make personal comments about peoples appearences etc dissregardless of what they have done, maybe you personaly have not made that comment but other people have these comments upset other people eg ckaires family, who havent done anything. And may i also point out those pictures were ovibusly taken while claire was going about her day to day business so how can anybody say she doesnt realise what shes done how do you lot know whats going on in hear head. Maybe one day when you find something else to do other than log noto here and comment on articles constantly then you may understand the point im making and to be perfectly honest im not interested in having petty arguemets through this, h i only came on here and left a comment because i cared wgat people where saying to claire. At the end of the day she is going to court for it what more do you want? Go and start a witch hunt for some murderers or peadophiles instead of a 27 yearx old woman who hasnt payed ier parking tickets seriously get a life...
freddy kruger
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It seems that none of ther family were ever in her car to see the amount of unpaid tickets. If they were don' you think they might have had some words with her about her immature and selfish attitude. The comments were made about how she was a very presentable person, so therefore can afford to look nice for her job and leisure time. this is not being nasty it is being factual. After all she has broken the laws. As said before I am not sure who is worse, her or the system and council who did nothing about it. Still say she should lose her car. And if she was my family I would be really ashamed that I had not given her any standards to live by.
minnie mo
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Freddie, NOBODY who spends their evenings (or more likely working hours(maybe a council job there?)) logged in and commenting on all the tittle tattle in the local paper with all the other old wifeys, has any right to tell anyone "seriously get a life" Especially someone who comes back later in the evening to read your own comment hoping someone has commented on your comment. On with the witch hunt, more mocking of her I say
Alan Partridge
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Freddy you are right even /minnie is now having a go at her parents, maybe she dont have any, who knows, i think she needs to sort herself out one way or the other, minnie is right about the council though they should not let this go as far as this.Broke the law the council is making a fortune from parking tickets and also those who get caught ( and pay)to be honest she does not bother me at all, who cares
bob seivwright
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@freddy. Are you seriously suggesting we take the law into our own hands with regard to *criminal* matters? That would be a mistake, and is to be frowned upon. However, Claire's actions (or lack of them) are a *civil* matter.
Ludvig von Mises
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Will the council get their £18K? Of course they won't. The defendant will likely take legal advice and take out bankruptcy to avoid such massive liabilities. John Stewart's enthusiasm for pursuing this money is clearly misplaced - he ought to be asking how the systems employed at ACC allow such a situation to build up. Do Aberdeen City Council make any bonus payments for parking enforcement targets? If so that's where John Stewart ought to be getting some money back for the council - ticketing the same car repeatedly to no effect without drawing attention to it is tantamount to theft if there's any incentive payments attached.
Richard Fraser
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@freddy. You tell us we should spend our time hunting murderers and paedophiles, yet you choose as your nom de plume the name of a famous (if fictional) child molester and killer. Why's that?
Ludvig von Mises
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@Richard. Yes, it seems to me that the costs which will be incurred by ACC to recover this sum will be counter-productive. However, I believe wholeheartedly that Claire should be pursued to the full extent of the law and punished accordingly - an example needs to be set to deter other freeloaders with a sense of entitlement from trying to get away with this free-parking scam in the future.
Ludvig von Mises
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actually that is my real name and my last name is not prounounced like that and i find it slightly childish that you would say that.
freddy kruger
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Poor Claire says: “I cannot afford parking. I cannot afford anything." Awww. But she *can* afford tobacco. Maybe if she gave up the fags she'd be able to afford her parking charges. Until that time, her statement is clearly false.
Ludvig von Mises
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@freddie. Is it *really* your name? If it is, I'm sorry if you're offended. Most of us here (very wisely) use pseudonyms for posting on internet forums. You've got to admit, though, that it *is* ironic that you should complain about child molesters and murderers while using that name, real or not.
Ludvig von Mises
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Ludvig, I don't know the details of the case but at face value it looks like there's some kind of pathology at work here. £18,000 in parking fines is certainly not run-of-the-mill stuff, so who knows what lies beneath? I doubt it's as willfully negligent as is being portrayed with such prurient delight here, however. In the same way that a landlord who repeatedly serves a drunk for gain can be legitimately prosecuted, I feel that if there is an agency that has been gaining from issuing these tickets (through performance related pay, bonus scheme or whatever) then they should also face severe penalty; they certainly won't have any underlying condition to mitigate such stupid, repetitive behaviour. That the leader of ACC appears blissfully ignorant of such an important factor, and instead prefers to sharpen his pitchfork and join the baying mob, is very disappointing if not entirely surprising. As, let's face it, it's not often these days when an opportunity rears its head where our elected members can attempt to chime with the thoughts of Aberdonians.
Richard Fraser
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actually alan partridge i dont i was only on here as i am a distant family member of claires so i have alot more reason to comment than you i think youll find i have never commented on anything on here apart from this and you say i keep checking well ovibusly you keep doing it or you wouldnt of read my commen?anyway ive made my point now h im not going to leave anymore comments as i have better things to do with my time and it realy is pathetic so think what you all want its not my problem everyones entitled to there own opinion right?i just wanted to stick up for claire so goodbye have nice lifes.
freddy kruger
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actually i think youll find its not ironic i can use my name if i choose to why should i hide my name because of that its my name and i will not be ashamed of it i did not chose it.
freddy kruger
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What? You been in about the cooking sherry again Freddie? We're all saddo's who keep coming back to see if anyone has commented on our comments, it's like having virtual friends. Don't take anything personally (especially anything I say) people will always mock and have an opinion and enjoy venting their spleens but thats the joy of this internet thing. Funny though that the only person sticking up for her is related. You could be some sort of champion for the peados and rapists out there, would you still see them from the rosie side of your spex?
Alan Partridge
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@Richard, you make some good, balanced points. You point out the similarities between a negligent publican and the parking enforcement agency, and I agree that there is definitely fault there. However, you also mentioned pathology. The negligent publican fulfills the demands of the problem drinker. Perhaps we have a new pathological phenomenon here - the 'problem' parker. "It's not my fault, I'm ill."
Ludvig von Mises
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Ludvig, whatever the problem is it's entirely obvious and fair to say that it ought to have been noticed long before the amount owed rose to £18,000. A mortgage lender would be sure to take decisive action long before arrears like that occurred. Our council leader, on the other hand, rubs his hands in glee at the prospect of a blue ribband prosection that will play well in the Evening Express, which I find both depressing and ultimately useless, as the money simply won't be recovered. It exposes the idiocy that operates deep within the council machinery, and our council leader ignores that in favour of cheap point scoring.
Richard Fraser
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Jesus there are some unbeliveably moral people on this comment board eh!! IT'S PARKING TICKETS FFS. Who cares, it's hardly a crime. It's not like our council even deserve our money in the first place is it. Our parking charges are ridiculous as it is, without the new zones which stretch across half the city now. And what do we even pay our stupidly high council tax for? Councillors expenses by the looks of things, because the bin collections have changed to fortnightly, the pothole situation is a joke, there were a severe lack of gritters out over the winter and I havent even seen any grass being cut yet.... Our council are completely retarded!! They're building new schools just to knock them down and build so-called superschools?!! And we wont even get started on all the public closures and the whole UTG debacle. If Ms Williams was a gypo the council wouldn't have given a flying f***. I reckon we should all give a massive two fingers up to them. I applaud you Claire.
Cunny Funt
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Also, why have Aberdeen City Council declined to comment? I smell fish, and no I don't live in Torry.
Cunny Funt
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Richard, all of what you say is true - but I'm not convinced that the roots of the issue lie exclusively with the council. Responsibility must also lie with the 'pathological parker' who thought she was getting away with it. She's been laughing at us all these months that she's been parking illegally. To extend your metaphor - do conscientious publicans prevent alcoholism? You're right though, the council's after a bit of populist glow after the debacles of the last few weeks which have earned them public brickbats.
Ludvig von Mises
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i just stumbled upon this article and omg ludvid your certainly very opinioated on this sometimes your leaving 3 comments at a time nearer the top, you make me want to pay the 18k just to make you stop commenting cunny richard and freddy i agree, and ludvig i wouldnt waste my time commenting back to me as i will not be coming on here again as i fear i may lose my visihon if i see your name one more time...
iamthe muffinman
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sorry vision*
iamthe muffinman
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Yes, muffinman, I have opinions. I hate it when people steal from me. You say to want to make me "stop commenting". Why? Which of my opinions do you disagree with? Do you like being stolen from and made a fool of by people who should know better? Do you like being laughed at by those who break the rules and feel they are doing so with impunity?
Ludvig von Mises
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I went to the grocer today, and it is just ridiculous, they don't have my favourite brand of biscuits and it really is a joke they've stupidly moved the aisle where the teabags are are they completely retarded!! or wot?
Ludvig von Mises
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I won't even get started on the funny look the checkout 'assistant' gave me It really is unbelievable and everything something else I think i shouldn't have payed i shuld have just nicked everything and given them a massive 2 fingers. Poor claire is the victim in all this and is striking out against the traveller-loving council. I APPLAUD YOU CLAIRE
Ludvig von Mises
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