‘DISASTER’ WARNING OVER POSSIBLE IMPACT AS BUDGET IS TARGETED

North-east could lose 250 police after cuts

By Ross Davidson

Published: 30/08/2010

Budget cuts could force Grampian Police to reduce officer numbers by nearly 250, it emerged last night.

Politicians and union leaders have warned that the potential loss would be “disastrous” and could impact on crime levels and police operations in the north-east.

The Scottish Police Federation said budget cuts in the next financial year could mean Scottish forces having to lose 2,800 officers, with an estimated £88.5million removed from their budgets in 2011-12.

Les Gray, chairman of the police union, said the service was working on an assumed 24% budget cut over the next four years, starting with 9% in 2011-12.

The Scottish Government said its priority was to protect frontline services against massive spending cuts.

If the projected cuts were implemented across all eight forces, Grampian would lose 249 officers from its record high of 1,600.

Mr Gray said: “The public have a right to feel safe and protected. Reductions of this scale would inevitably impact on crime levels and crime detection levels.

“The service is effectively being asked to provide 21st-century policing with 1990s resources.

“Put simply, taking 2,808 officers out of the service is the combined equivalent of losing virtually the entire forces from Central, Tayside and Northern.”

Grampian Joint Police Board convener Martin Greig said it would be “premature” to estimate the impact of next year’s budget, but the loss of 250 officers from the north-east would affect the force’s high quality of service.

He said: “Grampian Police officer numbers have increased steadily since 2004 to what is now an historic high.

“This year, the top priority of the police board will be to protect frontline policing.

“We will not be able to give a figure on the impact of the 2011-12 budget until we know the exact scale of the cuts, but it is almost inevitable that a reduction in the number of officers and staff would lead to a reduction in service in the north-east.”

Mr Greig added that the cuts may hit Grampian Police harder than other Scottish forces because of the efficiency savings the force has already made.

“Reducing spending in Grampian is going to be difficult because there is no inefficiency or waste,” he said.

“Unlike other forces, Grampian Police has been able to deliver quality policing while managing its budget extremely carefully, and this will become increasingly difficult as the budget is cut.”

North East MSP Nigel Don, a member of the Scottish Government’s justice committee, said he did not think parliament would allow Scottish forces to be hit so hard.

The SNP MSP said: “These are estimations based on overall public funding cuts, which up to now have also only been speculated on.

“I am not convinced that either the government or other parties want to see the cuts spread evenly across services and affect the police in this way.

“I think it is likely that, as parliamentarians, we are going to say that we need the police and these cuts are not appropriate.”

The SNP promised to provide an additional 1,000 officers by the end of this term in office – a pledge met early but now under threat, according to opposition parties.

Scottish Labour justice spokesman James Kelly said: “The SNP are completely failing to protect frontline services. They promised 1,000 extra police officers, but forces across Scotland are now being forced to make cutbacks.”

Tory justice spokesman Bill Aitken said: “The Conservatives were instrumental in police numbers being increased by 1,000 and, whilst we recognise that Labour’s fiscal incompetence means that all budgets will take a hit, it would be disastrous if frontline policing, which has proved so successful in the last couple of years, were to be prejudiced.”

A Scottish Government spokeswoman said police had been given record funds of £1.4billion this year.

She added: “Chief constables and local police authorities are taking decisions based on the current economic climate and not on a set budget.

“We will not know what any police force’s budget is until after the UK spending review is announced on October 20 and Scotland’s budget is published in the following weeks.

“Scotland’s budget is forecast to shrink by £3.7billion in real terms over the next four years, and our priority is protecting frontline services.”

The spokeswoman said the recruitment of more than 1,000 additional police officers had been a real achievement by the government.

The situation will be considered at a meeting of the Scottish Police Federation’s joint central committee on September 7.

Reader's Comments

I suggest Martin stops giving the Police Chief £70K bonuses. "Reducing spending in Grampian is going to be difficult because there is no inefficiency or waste,” he said. What a maroon!
Alan Craigie
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I suggest Martin stops giving the Police Chief £70K bonuses. "Reducing spending in Grampian is going to be difficult because there is no inefficiency or waste,” he said. What a maroon!
Alan Craigie
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What is badly needed is a cut in the inane beaurocracy of the police, court and fiscal's services. Many millions could be saved there. A reduction in front line policing must not be allowed to happen, at any cost. If it does, the slogan, "Vote Tory - Vote Lawlessness", could righty be used by opposition parties at the next General Election. Decisions on cuts have to be made but the least painfull would be the cancellation of the trident replacement. That saving would fund ALL the emergency services at their present levels.
Ron Campbell
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You want to save money??? Dump Westminster!
alan reid
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Unfortunately we've rewarded police administrators for creating an inefficient system. We need to take a fresh look at policing. Get rid of the bunglers that have created the mess. My office was broken into this weekend despite the drastically improved crime statistics. It would be a good story for an investigative reporter to look into how the crime statistics have been manipulated. Might be a good case for a fraud charge.
Alan Craigie
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The truth is we just don't know yet what is going to happen in terms of money availability first, and allocation of those funds later. Ideal times for scaremongers and do not forget which pastry, (sorry! wrong type, I meant party) do the unions bankroll and which interests but their own they support.
Vincent McDee
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As a Tory Alan, perhaps you should go private, to a security company. As for the extent of crime I dinna ken. Michty's been about for many decades and has never had reason to go to the police, not been assaulted, robbed, house broken into, property vandalised or defrauded. Just lucky or should he think we don't need all these polis?
Michty Me
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The trouble with going private is you still have to pay for the public system so you have to pay twice. The trouble is that over the last decade of Labour blundering public systems be it schools, healthcare or policing have become much more expensive and much less effective. Look at bozos like Martin Greig thinking that policing in Aberdeen is efficient and effective let alone worthy of fantastic bonuses. What planet does this twit live on.
Alan Craigie
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There is no substance to this story whatsoever, all ifs buts and maybes.
Tam Glen
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This cannot happen soon enough, The UK police are thugs, and in Aberdeen they are thick, moronic thugs. The sooner we rid our streets of what are simply the Governments heavies,. the sooner we can act to end the corrupt practices that are rife in this sad excuse for a city.
Bob Bobbet
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Dylan just mention police and of you go tell us what happened to you, it must be a good story. Keep up the good work keep us informed.
bob seivwright
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Do not know about the police, but going by the comments on this article, there are a few who seem to know more about crime than is good for them. Wonder why that is. Always knocking the police, the government the council. In fact anyone in any sort of power get it in the neck from some of you. Do you really think you could do any better with the attitudes you have for any authority. Seems that the bloggers pages get more reading than any local paper.
minnie mo
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I'm not anti-police. I'm anti government waste. I can't belief the statistics the police are giving us. Look at this weekend, attempted murders, 2 road deaths and breakins mentioned in the EE yet we keep being told crime is dropping. The police statistics are just not credible. David Copperfields analysis of the efficiency of policing in Canada vs UK and you begin to see the problem: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/.../law.../Free-the-police-and-save-billions.html (and Edmonton is a tough city to police). We can't keep rewarding incompetence in the public service if we are to compete internationally.
Alan Craigie
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35% are glorified traffic wardens...
Alan Hadley
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Cutting the number of police officer is not the awnser why dont they run the police as a business so when they arrest someoone the person commiting the offence should have to pay the fine plus the officers time as well at say £50 an hour and if someone has got to spend a night at the sell charge them £60 a night plus fine plus officers time Point im making is the fines you get for commiting an offence is a joke and its about time the criminal was paying more in running costs of a police force
Eddie Aberdeen
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Martin Greig is always quick to be seen with the Chief Constable and compliment them on the lies they tell us about the crime in Aberdeen, but you do not ever see Martin Greig comment of the failures of the Police in Aberdeen, if they fail it is also his failure, you did not see him comment on the Report into Grampian Police last year by that corrupt organisation the PCCS, one on the very few reports they upheld against the Corrupt Police Force in Aberdeen, where was that WINDBAG Martin Greig when that was discussed, I forgot it was never discussed, it got lost, and all the copies to all the other Crooks on the Joint Police Board also got lost, fortunately I have a copy, and we saw nothing about it in the gutter press, wasn't that a surprise.
dylan dougal
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I hope the Chief Constable is among the redundancies, he is one of the most abysmal Chief Constables we have ever had, and take that incompetent fool Martin Greig with his, he is the best supporter of this corrupt and incompetent Police Force you could ever get, when the Chief Constable tells Martin Greig to jump he says how high, what else does he do for the Chief Constable
dylan dougal
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‘DISASTER’ WARNING OVER POSSIBLE IMPACT AS BUDGET IS TARGETED How can this be a disaster, Grampian Police have been a disaster for years, if they got a thousand new Officers tomorrow they would still be a disaster, the problem is the people that are running the Police Force that are the problem, they are lazy, incompetent and corrupt, it is them that need replacing, and all the dummies on the Joint Police Board. The only good person who was not frightened of the Chief Constable of Grampian Police was Brian Topping, he was the convener back in the 1990s. Remember the Police tried to stitch him up in a fabricated expenses action, a Court case that cost the taxpayers a lot of money, and they were acquitted, and the Chief Constable Oliver was then found in the woods with a married woman, and had to resign. Brian Topping won the day against another incompetent and fool of a Chief Constable
dylan dougal
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Another interesting experience with our corrupt Police in Scotland. An elderly lady was dying of cancer, she wanted to stay at home as ling as possible, she lived alone with friends looking after her, she telephoned a relative at just after 10 am stating that water was leaking into her flat, it was coming from the flat above, we contacted a plumber who stated he would come along and break into the flat above, but that he would require a Police presence. That was a joke, WHEN THE POLICE WERE TOLD ABOUT THE LADY AND HER FLAT BEING FLOODED THEY SAID THEY COULD DO NOTHING TO HELP, WASN'T THAT A SURPRISE, we had to wait for resident of the flat above her to come home, which he did just after 9 pm. The flat was flooded, the lady had to be moved to a Nursing Home, it took three months to get the flat repaired, new carpets etc, by that time the lady had died. OUR CORRUPT POLICE. But when a person was being evicted for falling behind with his mortgage by a Bank, the Corrupt Police were called, and half an hour later three Police Cars arrived, they parked them away from the house in side streets, and came to the House, they were called by the Sheriff Officers, you can always rely on the corrupt Police to be part of a theft, this was a Civil Action, but the Corrupt Police Assisted in theft. A writ was being issued on a Company by a individual, and he asked the Police to be present when the Sheriff Officers delivered the Writ on the Company in case of any trouble, the Corrupt Police stated that was a CIVIL CASE AND THEY COULD NOT HELP OR BECOME INVOLVED. WELCOME TO CORRUPT SCOTLAND
dylan dougal
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I don't want any Police in Scotland, I just want to be armed, then I will be on a level playing field, the criminals and us all armed, I am a marksman and have no fear of the CRIMINAL SC_M, at present the Criminals get the protection from the Police, the Criminals get the protection of the Courts, as all those in the Criminal Justice System, better known as the CRIMINAL JOKE SYSTEM, rely on the criminals for a luxury life style, Solicitors and Advocates drowning in Criminal Legal Aid, sometimes getting a million pounds for a murder case, years of appeals and more Criminal Legal Aid. Judges and Sheriffs, Procurator Fiscals, Lord Advocates Office, Scottish Court Services, Prisons, Social Workers, Probation Officers, Police, Police Division, Scottish Government Departments, Criminal Review Commission, Criminal Compensation, Criminal Legal Aid Piggy Bank. Look at all these people that rely on the CRIMINALS FOR A SALARIES AND PENSIONS, why would they want to stop crime, far to many corrupt dummies rely on the Criminals for employment, you do not bite the hand that feeds you. This is an Industry, and growing every year. If you eradicated crime and criminality you would have all the above unemployed, and we do not have enough Rat Catcher Positions to give them all meaningful employment.
dylan dougal
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