independence ballot now likely to be focus of election

SNP set to scrap plan for early referendum

By Catriona Webster

Published: 06/09/2010

The Scottish Government is preparing to abandon its flagship policy of holding a referendum on independence before next year’s elections.

The SNP administration has confirmed it is now likely to make the issue the key focus of May’s Holyrood election campaign, rather than risk its defeat in a parliament vote.

Opposition leaders said Alex Salmond was “running scared” after the announcement yesterday.

Last week, the administrat-ion was battling to save another key policy as its plans for minimum alcohol pricing came under fire from the drinks industry and the opposition. The SNP pledged during the 2007 election campaign to hold an independence referendum, with a preferred date of St Andrew’s Day, November 30, this year.

But a Salmond spokesman said yesterday: “We are discussing our strategy to make the referendum the transcending issue of the election to demonstrate that financial independence is the only alternative to a decade or more of Westminster-dictated cuts. It is clear that we will now have to appeal over the heads of the Unionist MSPs to the people of Scotland next May.

“Tactically, we are deciding whether to introduce a bill to allow the Unionist parties to vote it down, or to publish the bill and concentrate on canvassing public support. A new, re-elected SNP government will be in a powerful position to secure passage of the referendum, having successfully mobilised the people over the blocking tactics of the Unionist parties.”

The fate of the bill is due to be discussed at tomorrow’s Cabinet meeting.

Aberdeen Central Labour MSP Lewis Macdonald said the policy had gone from being the SNP’s flagship to a “white flag”. “This was supposed to be at the centre of their legislative programme and has been completely abandoned without a fight,” he said. “It’s dead in the water. It’s a reprehensible waste of public money at a time when we all know the difficult circumstances of public spending and public services.”

West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine Liberal Democrat MSP Mike Rumbles described the policy as a “charade”. He said: “This has cost £2million so far on what is really a vanity project for the first minister.

“The Scottish people don’t want a break-up of the UK.”

North East Conservative MSP Alex Johnstone added: “I think the SNP realise that their long-held goal of achieving Scottish independence is not only unobtainable but also bad for Scotland.”

Labour leader Iain Gray described the move as a “humiliating climbdown” for Mr Salmond.

“It is the ultimate vanity project to waste millions, publishing a bill on a referendum nobody wants and not even bring it to parliament,” he said.

Tory leader Annabel Goldie said: “Alex Salmond has squandered millions of pounds of taxpayers’ money chasing a minority aspiration of his minority party. Now he is running scared.”

A Liberal Democrat spokeswoman said: “We welcome the SNP fighting next year’s election solely on the grounds of independence.

“Alex Salmond has said that he is now going to do this and this is very welcome territory for us.”

In February, Mr Salmond published details of the two-question referendum – which would cost about £9.5million – in a draft bill.

The first question would ask voters if they backed increasing the powers of the Scottish Parliament.

The second would ask if people agreed that “the parliament’s powers should also be extended to enable independence to be achieved”.

The proposed bill has been opposed by the Tories, Lib Dems and Labour at Holyrood, who have the votes to reject the measure.

Reader's Comments

The First Eck speaking up for Scotland and her people yet again. Democracy for Scotland, I'll vote for that.
Tam Glen
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Seems the writer of this article doesn't quite get the idea of a minority government.Remember during the course of this parliament we have had new labour and the liberals both hinting they would support the referendum now they don't ,so the bill would never get past. And why does the P and J keep referring back to the opposition on minimum pricing ??? every party now backs it in some form as do the police and the health professionals,stop misleading your readers.
Danny Reid
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Q1. Do you want increased powers for the Scottish Parliament. YES......Q2. Do you want independence. YES....... c'mon Scotland.
Tam Glen
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Our main problem is the anti S.N.P. bias of the combined media in Scotland, the only place to find fair comment is in Newsnet Scotland. I would also address the the fiction of "failed pwomises", the S.N.P. administration has a majority of ONE in the parliament and therefore has to govern by concensus, so the failed promises are due to the lib/cons and labour blocking e.g. L.I.T. etc.
JAMES MURRAY
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The people of Scotland want to see our Parliament take on more responsibility. The Scottish Social Attitudes Survey in mid-January 2010 showed 69% favoured significantly more powers for the Scottish Parliament. And in December 2009 an Angus Reid poll showed 64% of respondents in Scotland favoured increased powers. 25% favoured independence, 22% favoured some additional powers as proposed by the Calman recommendations, and 17% favoured more additional powers, including full fiscal powers As Donald Dewar said during the debate in the House of Commons on the 1997 Scottish Parliament referendum: “The only way in which we could move to independence would be if people voted for independence. That is clearly their right and I would not wish to deny them that right.” We agree and it is now time for the people of Scotland to have their say.
alan reid
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Mr Murray, spot on!
alan reid
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Vote Labour, if you don't mind your MSP ripping you and your country off! “Mr Angus MacNeil, the SNP MP whose complaint into honours for Labour donors initiated the police inquiry, said: "The entire Labour Party is becoming engulfed in this crisis of its own making. "No-one believes for a second that Mr McConnell is directly implicated in securing cash for honours. But as a political party, Labour has financed campaigns north and south of the border with funding from people whom Tony Blair has subsequently ennobled or knighted. "Eighty pence in every pound donated to Labour has come from people who have received honours." www.heraldscotland.com/mcconnell-disappointed-at-probe-into-boyd-peerage-1.840894
alan reid
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I wonder if the Scottish people will remember the expenses scandal? Well here's a little reminder: "Meanwhile some real rule breaking has actually happened where in Westminster have been ordered to repay expenses, although all parties have been implicated, it is note worthy that the vast majority of them are Labour and the highest amounts are also Labour, 26 of the current Labour Mps in Scotland are on the list.. Full list below Mr John Lyons, (ex-Lab), Strathkelvin and Bearsden, £18780.8 Rt Hon Gordon Brown MP, (Lab), Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath, £12888.03 Mr Eric Joyce MP, (Lab), Falkirk, £8602.56 Mr Tam Dalyell, (ex-Lab), Linlithgow, £8087.61 Mr James Hood MP, (Lab), Lanark & Hamilton East, £5413.49 Mr Michael Connarty MP, (Lab), Linlithgow & East Falkirk, £5181.56 Baroness Irene Adams, (ex-Lab), Paisley North, £5005 Mr Nigel Griffiths JP MP, (Lab), Edinburgh South, £4005.84 Mrs Rosemary McKenna CBE MP, (Lab), Cumbernauld, Kilsyth & Kirkintilloch East, £3008.93 Mr John W Robertson MP, (Lab), Glasgow North West, £2975 Ms Anne Moffat MP, (Lab), East Lothian, £2873.53 Rt Hon John Reid MP, (Lab), Airdrie & Shotts, £2731.88 Mrs Sandra Osborne MP, (Lab), Ayr, Carrick & Cumnock, £2612.12 Mr David Hamilton MP, (Lab), Midlothian, £2595.51 Mr William Rennie MP, (LD), Dunfermline & West Fife, £2573.1 Mr Peter Wishart MP, (SNP), Perth & North Perthshire, £1632.5 Rt Hon Sir Menzies Campbell CBE QC MP, (LD), North East Fife, £1490.66 Mr David Mundell MP, (Con), Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale & Tweeddale, £1300 Mr Angus Robertson MP, (SNP), Moray, £1217 Mr Russell Brown MP, (Lab), Dumfries & Galloway, £1146.63 Ms Katy Clark MP, (Lab), North Ayrshire & Arran, £782.89 Mr Ian Davidson MP, (Lab), Glasgow South West, £766.92 Mr Malcolm Bruce MP, (LD), Gordon, £622 Mr Jim Murphy MP, (Lab), East Renfrewshire, £577.46 Rt Hon Alistair Darling MP, (Lab), Edinburgh South West, £554 Mr John Thurso MP, (LD), Caithness, Sutherland & Easter Ross, £548.21 Mr Alistair Carmichael MP, (LD), Orkney & Shetland, £480.78 Mr James Sheridan MP, (Lab), Paisley & Renfrewshire North, £400 Mr Stewart Hosie MP, (SNP), Dundee East, £379.45 Mr Danny Alexander MP, (LD), Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch & Strathspey, £290.82 Mr James McGovern MP, (Lab), Dundee West, £266.54 Mr Mohammad Sarwar MP, (Lab), Glasgow Central, £245.95 Mr David Cairns MP, (Lab), Inverclyde, £237.07 Mr Iain Luke, (ex-Lab), Dundee East, £205 Mr David Stewart, (ex-Lab), Inverness East, Nairn and Lochaber, £192 Mr Angus MacNeil MP, (SNP), Na h-Eileanan An Iar, £133
alan reid
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Vote for Unionist parties if you more of this to happen to Scotland: "In 1999 the UK govenment did indeed change the North Sea border, but not from the mouth of the Tweed at Berwick. On 13 April 1999 the UK government promulgated Statutory Instrument 1999 No. 1126, purported to be Constitutional Law and entitled ‘The Scottish Adjacent Waters Boundaries Order 1999. It started the North Sea Border from near Lamberton, several miles north of Berwick, and continued in a northward curve which eventually circled to the east in order to transfer 6,000 square miles of oil, gas, fish and mineral resources to the English jurisdiction just before the establishment of the new Scottish parliament and government, in order to keep them out of Scottish hands. For the details, see tinyurl.com/dkst2m"
alan reid
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Remember the majority of the Scottish people voted for independence in 1979. But as we all know that was rigged by the Thatcher Government. Remember Mrs Thatcher? She's the one that said "we English who are marvelous people, are really very generous the the Scots"!
alan reid
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The great majority of those who post their political views in these columns are truly interested in the future of Scotland, irrespective of their choice of Party. Unfortunately the great mass of Scots will never read these comments as they stick their heads in the trashy red tops and have no knowledge or interest of what is happening around them. They are the ones who hold the key to Scotland's future, the uneducated, non-working, benefit scrounging underclass whose only thought is getting to the pub and the bookies. As long as they they continue to put their X on the voting paper, Labour will continue to thwart the ambitions of the Scots who care. The days of the aspirational working class Scots are gone along with the trades and skills that gave them their pride and ambition. Labour and the unions are the destroyers of Scotland and have been for too many years.
alan reid
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James, the "broken promises" mantra chanted by the Unionist and their media friends, has been quietly dropped over the last year, why? the SNP Scottish Government have in fact delivered the vast majority of their manifesto pledges. As Macdairmid said, " its time the claith was over the parrot"
Tam Glen
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Why should the Unionist parties feel that they have to block a referendum on this issue? It's called democracy, something they supposedly support. As to Mz Goldie's remarks that the SNP are a minority party: They are a party in power; something her own party can only ever aspire to in Scotland.
Ron Campbell
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All the above claptrap is very funny... a bunch of Nationalists talking to themselves, backslapping away and just not getting that the majority don't care for it. Independent Scotland = Cloud Cuckooland! :)
Kenny Mactavish
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All the above claptrap is very funny... a bunch of Nationalists talking to themselves, backslapping away and just not getting that the majority don't care for it. Independent Scotland = Cloud Cuckooland! :)
Kenny Mactavish
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Let's have a vote. Lets see what the people want. It's about time Salmond acted like he's got a pair. Id sooner vote for independence than for the SNP.
Alan Craigie
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I have don't care one way or the other about independence, but I would like there to be a referendum on it, so we could get it over and done with. Seems to me that the other parties are scared that the people might actually vote for independence. I can't see any other reason for not going ahead with the referendum. Some might say the cost, but it will be a tenth of what it is costing the UK government for the referendum on voting reform, and that vote is a foregone conclusion, as almost all tory and labour voters are going to vote against any changes.
Peter Laing
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Tam you normally come across with very good points but "Democracy for Scotland" as you put it can only be achieved by getting out of the EU, something the SNP do want to do. The breakup of the UK will only help the EU's plans of destroying our once and great country. Leave the UK to be controlled by Marxists we do not vote for.Sorry but that's not democracy. UKIP’s mantra of love Europe hate the EU is one that we need to follow if we are to get back to having decent country. We can talk about devolved powers etc when we are in control of our affairs again, something that won’t happen until we leave the EU. Because Westminster or Holyrood at the moment have no real power at all. Open invite to all if you want to come to next UKIP meeting leave a comment and I will leave details. No pressure, ask any questions you want, we will give you straight answers. But it’s costing us over £40 million a day net just to be ruled from across the North Sea. Wonder why there is so much cutbacks.
Steven Thomson
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Aye lets have a referendum and put this independence fooey to bed once and for all. The Buchan balloon is on a hiding to nothing, the quicker we are rid of him and his Braveheart fantasies that are taking Scotland back 400 years the best for all of us. How many Scots speak gaelic...1.2% of a population of five million, but the balloon has spent £millions on it, money that could have gone on new schools/hospitals or roads. But no his ego has it spent on translating Scottish Exec documents into gaelic and on all notices in the Holyrood white elephant. He wont win the next election..guaranteed.
Abbie Mann
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Forgot to mention I would class myself as Scottish, British and proud. Ah more nationalistic Scot you wont find, but as an ex serviceman, Army 12 years I am also proud to be British. Just like our troops in Afghnaistan from whatever of the four home countries would no doubt class themselves, Welsh british and proud English British and proud, you get my drift, but the EU should be our biggest worry at the moment. Salmond wants to get rid of all democracy by handing us over to the EU.
Steven Thomson
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We should probably be looking for Grampian independence more than Scottish. Holyrood seems to be taking a lot more than it's giving to this region. GIP Grampian Independence Party anyone. Cut out Holyrood, Westminster and the EU!
Alan Craigie
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We should probably be looking for Grampian independence more than Scottish. Holyrood seems to be taking a lot more than it's giving to this region. GIP Grampian Independence Party anyone. Cut out Holyrood, Westminster and the EU!
Alan Craigie
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Unless Alex Salmond withdraws his tacit support for Sir Ian Wood bulldozing Union Terrace Gardens to make way for a carpark and unless Brian Adam breaks his silence and tells the electorate that he will join the fight to stop the laying waste to Aberdeen's city-centre Victorian parklands, the SNP face electoral wipeout in Aberdeen in the forthcoming Holyrood elections.
Graham Slater
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You got that right Graham
Robert Horne
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Well said Kenny Mactavish. Another broken promise, another confirmation of deceipt. Salmond, stick to what you know, opening supermarkets and grabbing free meals and travel.
John Innes
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no independence for me, proud to be British and proud to be Scottish, i think it would be a financial disaster eventually.
bob seivwright
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I don't know if you've noticed but we are already having a financial disaster and it looks like it's just begining. Not proud to be British. Look at Afganistan, what a mess.
Paul Smith
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We've had 40 years of Unionist politicians forcasting financial disaster if Scotland goes Independant. They are the ones that have delivered disaster under the Union and should now be held to account. Open your eye's people, WE ARE BEING DECEIVED, MISGUIDED and ROBBED.
Paul Smith
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Kenny Mactavish, Is that your real name?? What is wrong the with the Scots from running their own country? We have seen our country been asset stripped for generation now. Fishing gutted, manufacturing run down, why is there 14 car making plants in England but none in Scotland? The only thing that England want out of Scotland is oil gas and troops for illegal wars, then again why would a English nationalist like you care about Scotland!
alan reid
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John Innes, If you want to talk about corruption then talk about the sleaze masters sitting in Westminster. Salmond fights for Scotland, something the useless bunch of scumbags did not do before him.
alan reid
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Steven Thomson, How do you KNOW that Salmond wants to hand Scotland over to the EU?
alan reid
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Alan Craigie, Vote for the SNP and for independence. After independence vote for whoever you want, because a vote for Scottish Labour/Lib dem/Tories might then mean something.
alan reid
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Abbie Mann, You talk about millions to gaelic, you do not seem to mind that Scotland billions has been spent on propping up England! And what about the Billions spent on trident, ID cards, illegal wars! Half a billion over budget for the new Wembley, that the Scots had to help pay for. The 20 billion on the London flood defenses, the millions for Port Cullis house, i could go on. Why should Scotland and the Scottish people have to put up with their country getting ripped off and asset striped so England can be bailed out of this economic disaster?
alan reid
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