Poll date angers Scots politicians

By Cameron Brooks

Published: 18/02/2011

Scottish politicians have reacted angrily to a decision to hold a referendum on changing Westminster’s voting system on the same day as the Holyrood elections.

Labour said holding the Alternative Voting (AV) poll on May 5 threatened to confuse voters and shift attention away from the business of electing a new government for Scotland.

A spokesman for the current Scottish Government said the move by the Conservative/Liberal Democrat coalition in London was “entirely unacceptable”.

SNP Holyrood election campaign director Angus Robertson, MP for Moray, said the decision was a disgrace.

The referendum seeks to determine whether the first-past-the-post Westminster voting system should be replaced with the alternative vote.

It allows electors to rank candidates in order of preference, similar to the system in place to elect regional list MSPs.

Legislation authorising an AV referendum received royal assent late on Wednesday after a stand-off over the issue in the Lords.

A Labour amendment urging MPs to think again on the issue was defeated on a 221-153 vote.

The Electoral Commission, the independent elections watchdog, last night said that it was confident that holding two elections on the same day would be a success.

Chairwoman Jenny Watson said she and her colleagues “are ready to deliver successful elections and a referendum”.

She added: “We will continue to work with the hundreds of local counting officers across the UK, making sure that they have the plans in place to ensure voters have the best possible experience at the elections.

Aberdeen Central Labour MSP Lewis Macdonald described the referendum as a “side show”.

He said: “Having the AV vote on the same day will confuse people and distract them from what is a critical Scottish Parliament election against a backdrop of severe budget cuts.

A Scottish Government spokesman said: “The interim electoral management board has made it abundantly clear that there will be major challenges to delivering a combined poll.

“In the event that both are held on the same day, it is right that votes cast in the Scottish parliamentary election are counted before those cast in the referendum.”

Labour leader Iain Gray said the Holyrood vote must be the priority and the results should be announced first.

The Scottish Liberal Democrats and north-east Conservative MSP Alex Johnston said they fully supported the UK Government’s decision.

A Lib Dem spokeswoman said: “People are more than capable of distinguishing between a vote on who they want to represent them in Holyrood and a vote on whether the UK electoral system should be changed.” Echoing the remarks, Mr Johnstone said that holding the two elections on the same day would cut costs and be more efficient.

Highland Tory MSP Mary Scanlon said holding two elections on the same day would save the public purse £17million.

Reader's Comments

Pity the politians did not think of this fact 4 years ago. Electors had to pick candidates for both local and government elections. This vote should be relatively easy, as the Alternative Vote will be a Yes or No vote. The last Scottish elections for both local and government was the biggest fiasco ever and has had having some of the worst policies inflicted on us by both local and government. Also using electronic counting did not help and our council is planning on using again next year for the local elections. Last election found 150,000 votes not counted, which had they been counted by hand, many would have been included. Wonder what we would have landed up with.
minnie mo
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The issue here is not about an inability of Scots voters to discern between voting for a new Scots government or for/against AV voting for Westminster. The real issue here is that the UK dominated media such as the BBC in Scotland will be pre-occupied with making the AV debate the dominant feature of the voting on 5 May, thus pushing into a lowly second place the importance of the Holyrood elections for Scots.
Marian Andersdottir
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Westminster made a mess of the last elections in Scotland now they are doing it again,why on earth is the Scottish parliament not allowed to organise its own elections ??? must be unique in the whole world.
Danny Reid
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Given the date of the Scottish election was known, why did Westminster pick the same date for the AV ballot? In all seriousness, I would think that the vast majority of us are capable of selecting yes or no on a form, without dificulty, Personally, I simply cannot understand why such mayhem ensued the last time dual voting happened. There was plenty of help available at the polling stations for those who had uncertainties. The main problem seemed to be the electronic counting system, not the voters themselves.
Ron Campbell
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The same politicians who are promoting the AV plebiscite claimed that a referendum on Independence would be a "distraction". I, for one, intend to spoil my paper by writing "Independence" on it as a protest.
Ian McLean
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Since we cannot comment on today's letters page, quelle surprise, I suggest a continuum of yesterday's discourse, inlight of the new non-developments re: the transport hub "project" on yesterday's Comments Page.
harvey freshwater
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Anyone who can't handle three bits of paper and a pencil shouldn't be allowed to vote. Any spoilt papers caused by "confusion" should be viewed as a form of natural selection!
Jimbo Aberdeen
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At the 2010 UK election, if we had had true proportional respresentation (not AV proposed), the SPN would have had 11 (instead of 6) Westminster seats. The Conservatives also, who were only ~4% behind the SNP in the Scottish popular vote (21% vs 17%), would have had ~6 Scottish seats instead of one. Just shows how unrepresentative the current Westminster system is. Combining the Scottish Parliament elections with the referendum might just get a higher turn-out, making both more representative.
Chris Southworth
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At the 2010 UK election, if we had had true proportional respresentation (not AV proposed), the SPN would have had 11 (instead of 6) Westminster seats. The Conservatives also, who were only ~4% behind the SNP in the Scottish popular vote (21% vs 17%), would have had ~6 Scottish seats instead of one. Just shows how unrepresentative the current Westminster system is. Combining the Scottish Parliament elections with the referendum might just get a higher turn-out, making both more representative.
Chris Southworth
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It was Doug Alexander who orginised the last Scottish Elections, he should take a lead from his sister, and resign, oh hold on, the trough is still half full.
Tam Glen
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Minnie, Your right there are a lot of Scots that are stupid, why else would this country allow another country to control it?
alan reid
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Minnie I do like like this in the Herald, what do you think? "It has long been said that, in large parts of Scotland, if you put a red rosette on a monkey it would still win in most Labour constituencies, especially when there is a Conservative government in Westminster. The old rule certainly appeared to be holding following the General Election in May when Labour stacked up more than a million votes in Scotland and knocked the stuffing out of Alex Salmond. But the day of the primate may be over. If the latest opinion poll from Ipsos Mori is right, and the SNP has clawed back the 10-point lead Labour had over them as recently as November, Labour may have to start looking for a better species of candidate" w.heraldscotland.com/comment/iain-macwhirter/it-s-no-wonder-the-nats-are-ahead-in-the-polls-1.1085601
alan reid
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Also "The SNP will go into the election having abolished prescription charges entirely (by April) and promising to continue a council tax freeze that has lasted now for four years. It will promise also to increase health spending in real terms for the next parliament, introduce 25,000 apprenticeships next year, and keep higher education tuition free for Scottish school leavers. Yes, it has broken promises on student debt and class sizes. But it has a pretty impressive record – and if Labour wants to earn their victory in May, it needs to stop monkeying around and come up with a proper response" w.heraldscotland.com/comment/iain-macwhirter/it-s-no-wonder-the-nats-are-ahead-in-the-polls-1.1085601
alan reid
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Perhaps Minnie you agree with this? "I’m afraid it has to be Scotland. It costs the UK £5 billion a year and saving that, on top of the £6 billion in cuts from the fat elsewhere, would go a long way towards solving our debt crisis" w.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/jeremy_clarkson/article7148883.ece
alan reid
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In regard to Minnie's comment.I've read what Ian McLean has written and he is only doing what many of us intend to do.The SNP name will not be on the AV ballot paper so it won't mean one less vote for the SNP.Or have I missed something.
Danny Reid
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Factually inaccurate juvenile reporting saying that the proposed AV system is similar to the system to elect list MSP's. Totally different systems if you want to continue to pretend to be a journalist at least have some idea what your meant to be wrighting about.
Anne Onimas
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