people feel pressurised and intimidated, says Milne

Boss hits at campaign to back Sir Ian’s vision

By Shona Gossip

Published: 09/02/2010

A top north-east businessman has claimed that many people feel “pressurised” into supporting Sir Ian Wood’s proposals for Aberdeen’s Union Terrace Gardens because of his status.

Jim Milne, chairman and managing director of Balmoral Group, said he knew many people in the business sector felt “intimidated” into backing the project, which would create a civic square in the heart of the city.

Sir Ian has offered to donate £50million to the £140million project to raise the Victorian park to street level and act as a link between Aberdeen’s main streets.

Peacock Visual Arts had been granted full planning permission for a £13million contemporary arts centre built into the slope of the gardens when the Aberdeen-based Wood Group chairman announced his plans for a five-acre development.

It would cover over the gardens, railway line and Denburn dual-carriageway.

Yesterday, Mr Milne claimed that Peacock’s proposals had been “blown out of the water” when Sir Ian unveiled his vision for the gardens, which is being steered by Aberdeen City and Shire Economic Future (Acsef).

He stressed that he was not launching an attack on Sir Ian – who he has worked with in the past – but added that he was passionate about what was best for Aberdeen.

Mr Milne, whose firm has its HQ in Aberdeen, said: “I feel strongly about making a stance, and don’t want to appear anti-Ian because he has done a phenomenal amount for the city and has a very successful company.

“It is also very noble and generous of him to offer £50million of his own money for the project.

“But we have to get what is best for the city.

“With regard to the city square plan, I personally know many individuals, especially within the business sector, that feel pressurised into supporting the Acsef project by their peers.

“Individuals have told me about their experiences of dealing with the city square project team and have felt intimidated.

“I would really like to know how Sir Ian believes the installation of another concrete development in the city will bring the jobs and prosperity he predicts.

“As far as I can tell, the people of Aberdeen do not want Union Terrace Gardens desecrated.

“People don’t necessarily go into the gardens every time they are in the town, but they often look down and admire it. To put a concrete jungle there would be a mistake.”

Mr Milne added that he felt the £140million estimated cost of the project was unrealistic, and that it would probably run over-budget.

He also warned against comparing it to schemes in Barcelona and Moscow, and said people had to remember the size of Aberdeen.

And Mr Milne criticised the ongoing public consultation on the city square proposals, saying that Peacock, which he said he would consider investing in, should have been included in it.

“Peacock had been granted planning permission when all this happened,” he said.

“Their proposal was just the right thing and came along at the right time, and would have definitely improved the park. Peacock have worked hard to raise their funding.

“What they are offering brings more to the city. It was more than just an arts centre. It seems unfair that they were not included in the consultation process.

“The centre had full support from Acsef when it started off, but then along came Sir Ian’s proposal and it was blown out of the water.”

Last night, a spokeswoman for Acsef said: “It is nonsense to suggest people are being pressurised to support the city square project.

“Acsef has overwhelming support for this from the Acsef board and the thousands of businesses with whom it actively engages.

“Sir Ian has always said that such a transformational project must be what the people of Aberdeen want.

“If the public does not support this project then he will withdraw his offer of £50million and it will not go ahead.

“His plea is that everyone participates in the public consultation to make their views known – for or against.”

Balmoral employs 350-plus people and operations include Balmoral Offshore Engineering, Balmoral Advanced Composites, Balmoral Tanks and Balmoral Park.

International energy services company Wood Group employs more than 28,000 people worldwide and operates in 50 countries.

Reader's Comments

Handbags at ten paces.... Quite funny that you never ever hear of the business leaders in Aberdeen. Nothing has so polarised their opinions as something as simplistic as concreting over Union Terrace Gardens. Why have we never heard from them, in regards to the other big developments ongoing in the city?
Ian Stewart
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Interesting that Stuart Milne got a free ride yesterday to peddle his support for the City Square Project, and today Jim Milne is attacked by Acsef in the same piece. Along with the op-ed comment it clearly demonstrates that the P&J has given up any pretence of editorial independence or integrity when it comes to Sir Ian's £50m pledge. Anybody looking for more impartial reporting would be better off looking to a source such as Mr Murdoch's Times - words I thought I'd never type, but sadly true.
Richard Fraser
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"I'm not against Sir Ian's plans, but.....". No need to sit on the fence Jim. And yet another attempt at scaremongering with the phrase 'concrete jungle'. What a load of tosh! The plans do not consist of a complete oasis of concrete, but shall incorporate trees, grass, shurbs, flowers. And while I'm at it, let the consultation speak before suggesting that citizens of Aberdeen do not want to see the gardens leveled. You do not speak for me Jim Milne.
Joe Bloggs
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I must admit to be in agreement with you Richard. We just need to read the last paragraph in this column, where the P&J have added the diffence in sizes of each company.. what was that about if not trying to tell their readers that Ian Wood's International company is a bigger company than Jim Milne's. I thought the Balmoral group was also an International company ? What you you have got to remember is that the Aberdeen Journals rely on the local businesses and councils to use them for advetising etc, so they can't upset too many of them.. so they will always have a bias for the good of them selves. What I can't understand is, If Peacock have the backing and finance in place, why can't they just go ahead with their plans??
Keith Stirton
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"but added that he was passionate about what was best for Aberdeen" - just who does Sir Ian Wood think he is - "he has done a phenomenal amount for the city" - just what good has he done for the city or shire the only thing he has done is made money for himself and he is possessed by it and his ego a liken to Hitler was possessed by his ego to the extermination of the Jews - if he continues on with this obsession of telling people what to do people will start to think he needs sectioning
Thomas Owenson
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Why are the citizens of Aberdeen not being asked to vote on this issue? That would settle it once and for all. I do not think that their opinions are being given the slightest consideration - usual bully-boy tactics.
Maureen Moir
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Thomas, by far the majority of Aberdonions object to the Square proposal, as I do. But to liken Wood to Hitler is just offensive and your comment should be removed.
John Rutherford
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Well done to Jimmy Milne for having the guts to speak out against Ian Wood's plans. Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire shouldn't be in anyone's pocket, no matter how many millions they have in the bank. Picking up on what Richard Fraser said, Joanna Blythman's article in one of the Scottish sundays is worth reading: tinyurl.com/yan7ok9
Louis Balfour
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John wrote> "by far the majority of Aberdonions object to the Square proposal" - source?
Joe Bloggs
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Joe, we can perhaps guess that the consultation is showing majority opposition from the tone of the editorial in the P&J. Why else would they highlight the high risk of losing Sir Ian's £50m pledge if the majority of folk engaged in the consultation process were for the CSP? The P&J is supporting Acsef and Sir Ian in this matter, so why would they report in such a damaging fashion unless they had been briefed on the state of the consultation? That is of course supposition, but if you have an alternative explanation I'd love to hear it, as it may be more credible.
Richard Fraser
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Well Joe look up the site against the Wood project. Seems you are a bit one sided as well. Thank goodness some business men are not scared of the Wood enterprise. Yes Sir Wood and ACSEF are guilty of bullying even if it is a suble approach. Look at their consultation - Can you get anyting more biased in favour of one project. Keven Stewart was up in arms against Peacock using any public money for progaganda, after donating how much to ACSEF???? Now we know where the city councils opinion lies. So this fiasco of a consultation is just as usual another waste of our money which the council so freely dishes out. Sir Wood should be totally ashamed and remember that many people now do not think of him as a great person, but a selfish and greedy person. To upstage a project which had all the planning and most of its funds to whet his overlarge egeo is disgraceful, and not fitting for someone of his stature. Perhaps his Sir should be revoked as he certainly does not deserve it for this disgusting show.
minnie moan a lot
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If there's a "spare" £50m in Sir Ian's pocket, he could benefit the City in much more productive ways: set up a small administration to encourage the utilisation of the Gardens without the need for concrete at all; use most of the rest to buy out and improve the Dons; get Bon Accord Baths sorted. There are other worthy causes but with just these three, he could have a park, a stand AND a truly unique bath named afer him.
Winston Ngomo
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I apologise for my remark "a liken to Hitler was possessed by his ego to the extermination of the Jews" it was thoughtless and uncalled for but Sir Ian Woods ego and what he thinks he can do with his money get to me when there is so much suffering and want in the NE today and what he could do with his money rather than a concrete slab - once again my apologies
Thomas Owenson
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ACSEF and their P&J mouthpiece seem mesmerised by Ian Wood's £50 million, which is pretty much the equivalent of the money-off deals in the January sales - buy something you didn't want in the first place because there's a bit knocked off. We've all fallen for it, but not on this scale. The Wood scheme will cost at least £140 million, leaving a funding gap of at least £90 million. Wir Cooncil's inspired suggestion as to where the £90 million might be sourced - their only suggestion so far - refers to "leverage" of ACC assets, i.e., mortgaging land & property belonging to ACC. Interest on a debt of £90 million will run at £4.5 to £9 million per annum, and the debt itself would have to be repaid sooner or later. How does ACSEF &/or wir Cooncil propose to cover this?
Alex Mitchell
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Sir Ian genuinely believes in his plan, and he has been generous in his support of Aberdeen in the past. Sadly, his plan simply isn't good enough, and the people of Aberdeen are making that known. I hope that ACSEF will take on board the public view, and in the future forge ahead with a vision supported by, and beneficial to the people of Aberdeen - with or without Sir Ian's support. There can be a vision that will actually bring benefits, rather than this half baked scheme.
Michael Hodgson
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"John wrote> "by far the majority of Aberdonions object to the Square proposal" - source? Joe Bloggs" Source: look around you Joe (why the pseudonym?). open your ears, can you not perceive the disquiet?
John Rutherford
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Joe, in answer to your question about support. I know petitions can't be relied on 100% but worth noting perhaps that the petition in support of the Peacock Contemporary Arts Centre proposal yesterday received 160 signatures and the total right now is 6257. The petition in favour of The City Square Project received 5 signatures yesterday and the total now stands at 1091. This is a big difference! And it seems to be getting bigger as today a further 37 folk have signed the pro Peacock one and The pro City Square one has had no new signatures. Maybe there will be a late rush. Who knows.
Alasdair Johnston
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Joe, in answer to your question about support. I know petitions can't be relied on 100% but worth noting perhaps that the petition in support of the Peacock Contemporary Arts Centre proposal yesterday received 160 signatures and the total right now is 6257. The petition in favour of The City Square Project received 5 signatures yesterday and the total now stands at 1091. This is a big difference! And it seems to be getting bigger as today a further 37 folk have signed the pro Peacock one and The pro City Square one has had no new signatures. Maybe there will be a late rush. Who knows.
Alasdair Johnston
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Never mind handbags at dawn - more like kids in the playground. Sir Ian Wood's withdrawal of his personal money if HIS scheme isn't adopted smacks of 'you cant play with my ball if you wont play the game I want'. Surely his contribution to the Peacock development would suit everyone - if he's so keen to be remembered in the city 'he has done so much for' The Peacock centre could be named after him!!
Linda Henderson
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I like the idea of giving people their say (without broad generalisation of most people are against it). The people of Aberdeen city should get the choice. And as for the comments on here, they indicate nothign of the overall mood of the people. It's often the case people against something voice passionately while those supporting are far more passive. No one sided petition, but something in the city centre asking people their opinions, for or against. Advertise and invite those who want their say. Simple. As for Wood taking his £50mill if it's not the plans he likes, so what. Why should he financially support plans he doesn't like? His money, his choice. And someone who started and owns one of the biggest companies in the city has done a lot for it, from employment through sponsorship etc. Just because you don't like his plans don't whitewash what a company that size gives back to the local economy.
Alisdair Cook
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I like the idea of giving people their say (without broad generalisation of most people are against it). The people of Aberdeen city should get the choice. And as for the comments on here, they indicate nothign of the overall mood of the people. It's often the case people against something voice passionately while those supporting are far more passive. No one sided petition, but something in the city centre asking people their opinions, for or against. Advertise and invite those who want their say. Simple. As for Wood taking his £50mill if it's not the plans he likes, so what. Why should he financially support plans he doesn't like? His money, his choice. And someone who started and owns one of the biggest companies in the city has done a lot for it, from employment through sponsorship etc. Just because you don't like his plans don't whitewash what a company that size gives back to the local economy.
Alisdair Cook
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Aberdeen Council simply can't afford this project and shouldn't even be discussing it. There are also perhaps more urgent calls on its cash. The problems at the Aberdeen Exhibition and Conference Centre is one big example. Lose that and there will no Offshore Europe or All Energy conference/exhibitions and that does attract the movers and shakers. The City Square won't.
Wee Scamp
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joe bloggs is not a real name expose your self
bob seivwright
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bob seivwright
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I'd just like to say... "Well done Jim for standing up and being counted!" It takes people like yourself, Anne Begg, Annie Lennox and Prof Stuart McDonald to be the voice of sense in this PR assault Aberdeen has been under these past few weeks. Even the P&J's own editorial opinion today stated that despite widespread critisism and the majority of Aberdonians refusing the City Square proposal they are still backing this mad idea.
Brian Christie
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I have an idea, why don't we bring back the belt, ration books etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. Why is it that people in this city are so opposed to changes? Look at Glasgow, Edinburgh even dare I say it, Dundee. They've all made attempts to modernise, and yet keep some old. But people in Aberdeen are so concerned 'Oh we can't change the Union Terrace Gardens!' It's an itegral part of the cities history.... blah, blah, blah'. Maybe so, but the truth of the matter is, no one uses it!! If people were so concerned about it, why doesn't it get used apart from photo shoots for weddings at the Thistle Hotel!
kevin mackie
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Kevin, I see what you're getting at however surely, as I've said in other threads, the discussions should surround the BEST option for the city and rather than arguing against an option they should argue for an option. It's strengths and benefits rather than the other options weaknesses. That indicates a lack of belief in what you actually support.
Alisdair Cook
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If we are to believe Sir Wood - he would accept the decision if the people of Aberdeen did not want his proposal. Not what he said at this question and answer. Nor what his Public consultation planned by ACSEF has come up with. If he is genuine and it is a serious doubt about that now, he would scrap this consultation and get one that is a true Public choice. With the questions being asked to cover both options not only his one. As for the daily papers spouting for this project just shows they do not have the integrity required for journalism to be unbiased. We have Mr Milne stating the obvious today but is being shot down by Tom Smith of ACSEF who must have a sizable stake in the project by the way he is so against anyone elses opinion. Yes Mr Milne said that many business were feeling intimidated - does that not make you wonder. So far we have all the retailer like Gary of the Merchants Quarter Mr Milne of the UNion Street traders etc, all saying what a great idea. So this concrete is just another retail park. As for our council saying use the bus more but willing to allow Sir Wood to build a car park right in the middle of city smacks of pure hypochrasy. Dare I say it How much are all these folk being paid to keep the blinkers on.
minnie moan a lot
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Aberdeen City Council and its predecessors have inflicted more damage to our city than the the Luftwaffe ever managed. Anyone interested in this shameful story should read the book 'Lost Aberdeen'. If they let Ian Wood's plans come to fruition all their other planning blunders will pale into insignificance.
Louis Balfour
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Nice one Louis, just look around Aberdeen at the "Progressive" thinking by previous councils. If it was not so serious it would be hilarius. Now they want to make it even worse can you believe it???. Just why is our council lying so low on the subject, they have put enough money into it. Snake in the grass time I suppose
minnie moan a lot
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I think Kevin Mackie is proving the point that the PVA side are trying to prove - that people need to know about BOTH option on the table. It sounds like Kevin doesn't even know what PVA's plan are! - They are for progress - and change - but on a sympathetic, world class and "cost effective" level - small buildings can still have a massive impact! (Culturally and Civically) - Again, "bigger" doesn't always mean "better" - unless you think like Jeremy Clarkson - and I imagine that most conservative oil related men do. Interesting that you should mention Dundee as an example of change and progression.. did you know that a small Contemporary Arts Centre was at the heart of that regeneration? leading to the £45+ million investment when the V&A decided to set up shop there - because Dundee was seen to be a Cultural Destination?... again, a little bit of knowledge, research and attention to detail helps when arguing the case for PVA - unlike the "everything to everyone will contain anything and be greener, not concrete, not flat, full of trees" City Square. aka - impossible to be accountable for the claims ACSEF are making for it. Lack of vision? pretty insulting to a creative community who's job and life it is to "see things that are not there".
Philip Thompson
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I must agree totaly with Jimmy Milne,although in his story today he did not rip up Ian Wood but the bright red logo of the Wood Group in the centre of the so called square! its a no go.Better for Mr Wood to help others who are in dire need of help,not Aberdeen City Council.Perhaps Mr Wood would care to build a hotel at AECC !
Gavin Elder
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Aye aye Louis - still chasing that Drama School job I see (and showing your age to boot) Minnie you should stop hiding your anger behind that pseudonym and “come out” we will all give you a big hug to make you feel better. I’m nae even sure I’m still in Aiberdeen ony mair – with all these references to Hitler and the Luftwaffe. I thought this was all about the City Square Project? And Louis – I have made no reference to Sir Ian wood so you can’t call me a big sook – think of another name this time ;-)
Philip Uren
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